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Friday, July 20, 2012

Pied Pipers Of The Truth Movement: Where Exactly Are They Trying To Lead Us?


Several of the previous articles on this blog have looked at the possibility that at least some of the high profile, celebrity, anti-New World Order researchers or campaigners are not quite what they seem. Others have also written on this subject as more people come to suspect that many of these 'truthers' are either shills or controlled opposition or at the very least deceived themselves into furthering the broader 'New World Order' agenda. Although it can't hope to be a definitive summary of what it is happening in this regard, this article will try to look at just a few of the conclusions that can be reached from this realisation. 

The first and perhaps most obvious conclusion we can reach is that a degree of disinformation is being purposefully disseminated. It's not hard to see why this should be occurring. As the real agenda is being pursued it serves to confuse and divide those alert enough to know that something very wrong is taking place. Confusion is created by offering differing points of view as to what is happening. In the process any real truth tends to get lost in the haze of disinformation. That's not to say a deeper understanding can't be achieved but just that it's a much harder task.

Many people baulk at the idea of taking the, so called, 'Protocols of the Elders of Zion' seriously. Primarily this is because they are deemed to be 'anti-Semitic' and one of the justifications of the persecution of the Jewish people by Hitler. There are many suggestions as to who the authors of the 'Protocols' were. The Rothschilds, of course, leading freemasons including Albert Pike and even the Jesuits. In short, the authorship of the document is shrouded in mystery and even if it were proved beyond doubt that it was elite 'Jewish' Zionists that wrote it, that wouldn't mean that all Jewish people were responsible or give cause to persecute them in any way. For example in Protocol 9 we read:

"Anti Semitism is indispensable to us for the management of our lesser brethren..." 

This alone proves that even if it was 'elite' Jews it certainly isn't for the benefit of the majority. My own feelings are that they are unlikely to be a solely Jewish production for solely Jewish aims. The occult 'elite' behind the drive for spiritual and temporal control of the world and humanity operate through many fronts. They also use many of these fronts as a form of cover. Suggesting the Protocols are Jewish then slandering anyone who points out that they accurately reflect events in the world as 'anti-Semitic' is, perhaps, an example of that cover. The occult 'elite' comprises of both Jew and Gentile and the ordinary Jewish person is every bit as deceived and manipulated as anyone else in the 'West', even if, perhaps, in different ways. Anyone bothering to read the 'Protocols' for themselves soon sees a remarkable similarity between the words in them and what is happening at the present time.

The reason I mention this is because I want to use several quotes from the 'Protocols'. For example, from Protocol 5 we read:

"In order to put public opinion into our hands we must bring it into a state of bewilderment by broadcasting so many contradictory opinions from all sides and for such a long time that it will make the Goyim lose their heads in a maze of confusion.  They will come to realise that the best thing is to have no opinion of any kind in political matters, especially when it is intended that the public should not understand the issues being discussed.  In that way the Goyim will leave the opinions and understanding of the issues to those who guide the public.  This is the first secret."

As noted in the 'Mass Immigration and the New Tower of Babel' article, William Carr, the author of the unfinished, manuscript, written in 1959, called 'Satan: Prince of This World', discusses the meaning of the word 'goyim'. Many believe it to mean gentiles or non-Jews. Carr suggested that its original meaning was 'the masses or common people' but then later became 'lesser beings' or 'the mob'. He then notes that revered American freemason of the 33rd degree, Albert Pike, used the word to mean 'human cattle', which does appear to be the way the occult hierarchy thinks of us. Another quote that is pertinent to this discussion is from Protocol 12, where we read:

"… we shall set up our own, to all appearance, opposition, which, in at least one of its organs, will present what looks like the very antipodes to us. Our real opponents at heart will accept this simulated opposition as their own and will show us their cards.."

We can certainly see how the above plays out in the mainstream press and media and I think it would be naive to think that the' so called' alternative media' is any different. As quoted before on this blog and many times elsewhere, Lenin said, "The best way to control the opposition is to lead it ourselves". There's little doubt that this is happening, all that's open to debate is the scale of it. 'Controlling the opposition' allows several things to happen. What information is revealed and how and when it is done so, is determined by the very force that is supposedly being 'exposed'. There's been such a great amount of previously 'suppressed' information revealed in recent years that it begs the question why and why now? Not all the information being 'released' can be classified as disinformation, not by a long way. So what is the role being played by the likes of David Icke, Ian R Crane, Charlie Veitch and others?

To some degree, particularly with regards to Icke, the role seems to be to bring the very idea of there being a 'conspiracy' of any sorts into disrepute. There is plenty in Icke's lectures that is verifiably true. However it gets mixed in with outlandish claims about the 'elite', including the British royal family, as being 'shape shifting lizards'. Throw in some other, equally strange, claims such as the moon being an artificial construct that serves as a base for a group of extraterrestrials that has been manipulating humanity for 'aeons' and it's easy to see why any talk of a 'New World Order' is ridiculed by so many people. That's not to say that Icke and others like him, still don't attract many followers. Those prepared to ignore the doubts and ridicule and listen to what he has to say at his frequent lectures, or read one of his many books, are treated to an alternative version of 'reality' that is made to seem highly plausible, if not true. This is precisely because much of what Icke exposes and talks about is based on the truth. This begs the question, why reveal all this now when it would appear to be of more benefit to keep it all suppressed?

My suspicion or hypothesis, as I've partly discussed before, is that much of what purports to be the 'anti-NWO truth movement' is little more than a psy(chological)-op(eration) designed to do several things. Before we look at what those might be we should clarify what is meant by the 'anti-NWO truth movement'. Not only are many of the celebrity 'truth' leaders' controlled but so, it appears, are many of the 'alternative' news outlets, let alone the mainstream media ones. Information is fed through these 'sources' into the broader 'truth' movement where it is either regurgitated or commented on by the many other bloggers (myself included), researchers or activists that are attempting to resist the 'New World Order'. The distinction then, is between the general 'anti-NWO truth movement' and those with a much higher profile. The one's that are selling books and DVD's, touring the world giving lectures or who even have their own iPhone app. None of which would be likely or even possible if they truly were a real threat to the established order.

As said previously, it appears that much is being 'exposed' on purpose. Writer Michael Hoffman suggests that this is something called the 'Revelation of the Method', the purpose of which is the implied consent of the populace. Hoffman's claim is that:

"…if no resistance is raised when they reveal the truth, the cryptocracy is free to continue to follow their satanic precept, 'do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law.' In other words, when the cryptocracy reveal their evil manipulations and the majority of the people don't care, it's checkmate."

This theory has more merit if we take the agenda that is unfolding at face value. That is, broadly speaking, that the New World Order develops as expected without any concealed twists or deceptions. It is though likely to be at least a part of how things are being played out. I've discussed many of the subjects related to, what is best described as the NWO, with lots of different people. Even with those who have shown an interest and not dismissed the idea completely, there aren't any that have continued to look into things to any real degree. The idea is that by not resisting or even being so traumatised by events that we accept their 'solutions', we have made our choice. That is we have chosen by our own free will the new, Luciferian/Satanic, system being presented to us, though of course it may welll be disguised as something wonderful and the solution to all the problems They created in the first place.


Another context into which I think this 'revealing' can be placed is discussed by the Soviet defector Yuri Bezmenov. He described the KGB's functions as being only around 15% traditional 'spying' with the rest being more general subversion tactics. He talks about the fourfold process of taking over a country. Step one is to cause a general demoralisation of the population, step two is to begin destabilise it, step three is to cause rebellion or insurgency and step four is the take over process which he describes as 'normalisation'.  I found myself wondering if 'exposure' of the 'NWO' was being used as a tool to demoralise, destabilise and incite rebellion? As we'll see it's certainly possible, if not highly likely. In a similar vein the aim of the Cultural Marxists of the Frankfurt School was to undermine Western culture and values, or in the words of Willi Munzenberg, 'make the West so corrupt it stinks'. Perhaps the steady stream of negative news stories that emanate from anti-NWO/alternative news sites in many ways serves this purpose. It's not that most of these stories aren't true but they serve the purpose of creating negative energy designed to demoralise, destabilise, incite us to anger and rebellion and to steer us in a preprepared direction. 

Many of the sources of this 'news' fail to offer any concrete solutions beyond the need to blindly rebel. Alex Jones (see first picture) being a good example. He and others are also adept at spreading fear, despondency and hopelessness and leading their followers down many different rabbit holes. Anything but offer concrete solutions. When a solution is proposed it is usually along the lines of the need for us to unite because we are 'all one consciousness'. David Icke is the perfect example of this. As we saw in the article 'David Icke Debunked', based on the film of the same name, Icke 'exposes' the NWO then uses this as a tool to herd the newly 'awakened' into the very Theosophical, New Age, false utopia that it seems has been the aim all along.

This use of deceptive language or seductive, tempting ideas to manipulate people in a particular direction is an important thing to be very aware of. Perhaps another quote from the 'Protocols' can provide us with a good example of how feel good buzzwords and high principles are intentionally misused by the occult oligarchy.

"Far back in ancient times we were the first to cry among the masses of the people the words "Liberty, Equality, Fraternity," words many times repeated since these days by stupid poll-parrots who, from all sides around, flew down upon these baits and with them carried away the well-being of the world, true freedom of the individual, formerly so well guarded against the pressure of the mob."
"In all corners of the earth the words "Liberty, Equality, Fraternity," brought to our ranks, thanks to our blind agents, whole legions who bore our banners with enthusiasm. And all the time these words were canker-worms at work boring into the well-being of the GOYIM, putting an end everywhere to peace, quiet, solidarity and destroying all the foundations of the GOY States."
The words 'Liberty, Equality, Fraternity' will be instantly recognised as the national motto of France, with its roots in the French revolution. A revolution that, when investigated carefully, appears to have very different causes and aims than the accepted history books suggest. It becomes clear that one or other of the many fronts the occult oligarchy operate through were at work in those times, with freemasonry being, perhaps, the most obvious. This is not the place to dissect that particular event but suffice to say the the study of the French revolution should provide a cautionary tale for all those tempted by violent 'revolution'.

One more perspective can be gleaned from a section taken from the book 'The First Global Revolution', published in 1993 by the globalist think tank, the Club of Rome. The book makes the observation that:

"... divided nations require common enemies to unite them … either a real one or else one invented for the purpose." 

This tactic of creating an external enemy to unite the populace has been used by the occult oligarchy for centuries. One of the benefits, of course, is that while the people's focus is elsewhere, they don't have time for thoughts of rebellion against their rulers. Most often these 'enemies' have been other countries or peoples. The book comes to the conclusion that 'because of the sudden absence of traditional enemies, new ones must be identified'. 

"In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill....All these dangers are caused by human intervention, and it is only through changed attitudes and behaviour that they can be overcome. The real enemy then, is humanity itself."

How this fits in with the 'global warming/climate change' scam is another story, but what I began to wonder was, is the NWO itself, as perhaps commonly understood, a form of fabricated enemy that is being used to 'unite' us? An 'evil' NWO that is simultaneously being associated with the Western system in general, with perhaps a specific emphasis on Britain and America? Is this 'evil' NWO part of the process of demoralisation and destabilisation? Is it part of an overall effort to get us to 'rise up' and 'bring down the system'? We can see how many elements be they left wing, libertarian, anarchist or anti-NWO are being encouraged to rebel or revolt. If they truly want to bring in a New World Order then the old order has to be destroyed first. Who better to do that than us and by doing so give consent to what replaces it? If the aim is a sort of year zero, a fresh start, a New Order, New Age or New Earth, then all of the old ways need to be jettisoned and done away with. Perhaps this is why so much is being 'exposed'. It's all part of the 'old system' that is being 'replaced' anyway.

Theosophist and Luciferian, Alice A Bailey hinted at this interpretation of the agenda when she said:

"The New World Order must be appropriate to a world which has passed through a destructive crisis and to a humanity which is badly shattered by the experience...  [It] must lay the foundation for a future world order which will be possible only after a time of recovery, of reconstruction, and of rebuilding."

As an aside, with this in mind I remembered something the researcher Alan Watt once said. He said that throughout history the power centres of the ruling elite have periodically shifted. This is done when the old one has been worn out and served its purpose. Before the shift takes place the old centre is subtly destroyed so that it can no pose no threat to the new one. Many suggest that it is Britain that is one of the centres of power in the New World Order agenda and has been for a considerable period. Looking at Britain today it's hard not to see it as being slowly destroyed, a death by a thousand cuts. Mass immigration is relentless and can only result in the genocide of the English, the main population of the British Isles. Our manufacturing and industry has been slowly exported, our armed forces sacrificed in wars that only serve the occult oligarchy and of course there's the slow but sure subjugation by the European Union to name but a few of the cuts we are facing. Is this all part of a process that sees Britain, America and by extension Europe and the 'West' in general, being set up as a sort of scapegoat for the real New World Order. By this I mean the people of Britain, the indigenous English, Irish, Scottish and Welsh and their democratic, Christian heritage, both of which are targets of the occult hierarchy. At the very least, it's a possibility that should be considered.

The Freemasons have a motto, 'Ordo Ab Chao' which essentially means order out of chaos. The charge is that the chaos will be created by Them so that They can shape the subsequent (New) Order. This seems to be what Bailey is describing in the previous quote. She was a founder of the Lucis Trust, which was originally called the Lucifer Publishing Company. On their website we read of something called 'World Goodwill' which is described as an 'activity' of theirs. It says:

"World Goodwill is an accredited non-governmental organisation with the Department of Public Information of the United Nations. It maintains informal relations with certain of the Specialised Agencies and with a wide range of national and international non-governmental organisations. World Goodwill is an activity of the Lucis Trust, which is on the Roster of the United Nations Economic and Social Council."

Elsewhere on the ‘World Goodwill' page of the Lucis Trust website we read.

“This is a time of preparation not only for a new civilisation and culture in a New World Order, but also for the coming of a new spiritual dispensation."

I've previously equated the 'evil NWO' with Orwell's 1984. This is what we have been trained to think it's all about. As it develops it creates and puts in place all the necessary building blocks and globalist structures for the real NWO, the false, New Age, utopia. This will be a lot more like Aldous Huxley's, Brave New World where the majority of humanity has become 'a population of slaves who do not have to coerced, because they love their servitude'.

Bailey was the third head of the Theosophical society after the Fabian and occultist Annie Besant and the founder of the movement Helena Blavatsky. It's well documented that Blavatsky revered 'Lucifer'. She even created and edited a magazine of the same name. In her book 'The Secret Doctrine' she wrote:

"Lucifer represents..Life..Thought..Progress..Civilisation..Liberty..Independence.. Lucifer is the Logos.. the Serpent, the Saviour."

"The Celestial Virgin which thus becomes the Mother of Gods and Devils at one and the same time; for she is the ever-loving beneficent Deity...but in antiquity and reality Lucifer or Luciferius is the name. Lucifer is divine and terrestrial Light, 'the Holy Ghost' and 'Satan' at one and the same time."

"It is Satan who is the God of our planet and the only God." 

It is supposed that the 'destructive' crises will likely involve some sort of banking and economic collapse that will inevitably be followed by food and energy sources becoming restricted. These in turn will likely trigger violent protests and a greater degree of disorder on the streets. Then there's what appears to be the seemingly inevitable war in the Middle East, centred around Israel. A war that could easily escalate into a wider World War Three involving Israel, America, Britain (with perhaps a large part of the Commonwealth) and much of Europe on the one side and many Islamic nations supported by China, Russia and a few other nations friendly to them on the other side. I don't for one minute think that either Islam, China or Russia are 'anti-NWO'. They are as controlled as any of the countries in the 'West'. In previous wars it has become apparent that They have controlled both sides and I don't doubt this will be any different.

A New World (Order) system must involve the uniting of West and East. In order for that to happen a significant number in the West have to become disillusioned with their system and see it as not worth fighting for. A disillusionment in part fed by the 'alternative media' as well as the policies being pursued by the political 'elite'. Out of the ashes (chaos) of the destroyed 'old order' (a corrupted, demoralised and degraded 'West' masquerading as the New World Order) will rise the 'phoenix' that will be the new system. This will be the 'order' from Their chaos. In her book 'A Treatise on the Seven Rays', Vol. 5, p. 309, Alice A, Bailey states:

"This process whereby civilisation periodically re-makes itself can be profoundly unsettling for those who live through it. This is especially true now, as the process accelerates. Moreover, people now live longer, and may expect to see many more changes in their life than previous generations. So, as the many changes accumulate, they may even come to feel that the civilisation they were born into is dying, and being replaced by something quite alien."
'Profoundly unsettling for those who live through it' reminds of a quote from H. G. Wells in his book, 'The New World Order'.
"... when the struggle seems to be drifting definitely towards a world social democracy, there may still be very great delays and disappointments before it becomes an efficient and beneficent world system. Countless people ... will hate the new world order ... and will die protesting against it. When we attempt to evaluate its promise, we have to bear in mind the distress of a generation or so of malcontents, many of them quite gallant and graceful-looking people." 
The previous quote from Bailey was used in a section of the Lucis Trust website entitled 'Phoenix Rising - the Re-birth of Civilisation' where Bailey further remarked that:
“Dying civilisations are present in their final forms whilst new civilisations are emerging; cycles come and go and in the going overlap”.
Make no mistake our 'civilisation' isn't just dying, it is being intentionally destroyed by the occult oligarchy that Bailey was, if not a part of, then in service to. Many of the problems in the world, particularly the wars, will be largely blamed on nationalism (nation states) and religion, both of which will be seen as 'problems' to be solved. This new system will, of course, be sold to us as the end of all wars, justice for all, sharing, equality etc but will actually be the very (Luciferian/Satanic) New Order/Age communitarianism the ruling 'elite' wanted all along and have been planning for a very long time. Here it's worth quoting again from the 'Protocols':
"When we have accomplished our coup d’etat we shall say then to the various peoples: ‘Everything has gone terribly badly, all have been worn out with suffering. We are destroying the causes of your torment – nationalities, frontiers, differences of coinages.’”

Yuri Bezmenov described a similar scenario.

"And after crisis, with a violent change in power, structure, and economy, you have the period of so-called normalisation [that] will last indefinitely. Normalisation is a cynical expression borrowed from Soviet propaganda. When the Soviet tanks moved into Czechoslovakia in ’68, Brezhnev said, ‘now brother Czechoslovakia is normalised.’ This is what will happen in the United States if you allow all these schmucks to promise all the goodies and paradise on earth…"

That's exactly how it seems it will play out on a wider scale. A traumatised humanity promised 'all the goodies and paradise on earth', a false utopia or 'New Age', will fall into the carefully prepared trap that is the real New World Order. This will be a humanity already brainwashed and indoctrinated into the Satanic/Luciferian occultism of the 'elite' by years of propaganda and perception management (brainwashing). This is particularly true of the young, as we saw in the last but one article, 'The Entire Humanity Must Be Reprogrammed'. In it we read about Dr. Robert Muller, the former Assistant Secretary General of the United Nations for 40 years, who is considered by many to be 'the philosopher of the United Nations'. He set up something called the 'The Robert Muller School', officially a branch of The School of Ageless Wisdom, founded in 1974 by Gloria Crook. She was an Alice A. Bailey admirer and one of Muller’s close friends. Muller was responsible for the creation of something called the 'World Core Curriculum' that formed the basis and inspiration for the UN's global education movement. In the preface to the book it says:

"The underlying philosophy upon which The Robert Muller School is based will be found in the teachings set forth in the books of Alice A. Bailey by the Tibetan teacher, Djwhal Khul (published by Lucis Publishing Co.)."

Djwhal Khul
'Djwhal Khul' is the 'ascended master' said to have dictated many of Bailey's books. As author Gary Kah pointed out:

"As difficult as it may be to believe, the U.N.’s global education of the future is being openly modelled after the teaching of a Luciferic trance-channeller and her demonic spirit guide.”

On the Robert Muller website we can read the following:

“An educator wrote to me: ‘Through your world core curriculum, the world’s teachers can now have access to the soul of every man, woman and child on this planet.’ I hope this will be the case….. The entire humanity must be reprogrammed through a right global inducation (Latin ex-ducare, to lead out, in-ducare, to lead into).”

This, it seems, is part of the preparation that Bailey spoke about as being necessary 'for a new civilisation and culture in a New World Order [and] the coming of a new spiritual dispensation.' A preparation that is taking place, along with much else, under the auspices of the UN.

We can only speculate what the new system will be. Some observers think the end game is for the China/Russia/Islam axis to 'win' and for the West to be subsumed into the Communist system. It's a possibility I suppose. The ruling 'elite' have certainly gone a long way towards building China up as an economic and military power. Would this have the desired 'utopian' effect though? I somehow doubt it. It would still have large numbers, particularly in the West, fully aware that they were enslaved. Although there are doubts as to the authenticity of the infamous 'Albert Pike, World War Three' letter it does give us an insight into how things could play out. Even if it were a forgery it would seem it has been released and distributed to serve a purpose. More 'revelation of the method' perhaps? In it we read the following:

"The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the 'agentur' of the "Illuminati" between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other. Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion…We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view. This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time." 

A situation where neither 'win' but all are utterly demoralised, exhausted and traumatised seems more likely. If humanity is presented with a new 'system' that promises fairness, equality and most of all peace (Liberty, Equality, Fraternity?), the majority will eagerly embrace it, Luciferian or otherwise. At time of incredible crises such as described above most of humanity will have had their paradigms shattered and at such moments all are vulnerable to new 'programming'.

Another 'psy-ops' directed by the 'ruling elite' is the Zeitgeist series of films that used something called the Venus Project as a proposed future for mankind. As we saw in the article 'New Age Communism: The 'Zeitgeist' Agenda' writer Richard Evans described the Zeitgeist/Venus Project 'solution' as 'Communism repackaged to rope in the 21st century truth seeker'. It seems that something along these lines seems far more likely to be the proposed 'solution'. A cashless, collectivist (communitarian) global system presented as the end to war and 'fair' to all. The only way this will be possible is if first the concepts of free trade (capitalism in its true sense as opposed to the monopoly capitalism/cartelism we have today), money (as in cash, notes, coins etc) and nation states are destroyed. All of these things are currently being presented as 'the problem' with nation states (and religions) being cited as the main reason for any future Middle East clash and wider, subsequent, conflict. We also have the continuing saga that is the banking and financial system. It appears to be on a 'life support' of some sort, kept alive to crash at the opportune moment. By that time nobody will be left in any doubt that it has to 'change'. That change will be further moves towards a truly global currency and financial system if not the very thing itself. Indeed the banking system, as does the 'New World Order currently being 'exposed', appears to be designed to fail. A huge problem, reaction, solution maybe?

The 'communitarian' solution that looks likely to form the political and economic basis of the real New World Order has been described as a synthesis of communism and 'capitalism' similar to what has recently developed in China. It's been suggested that China is a model for the new system, socialism for the masses and monopoly capitalism for the 'elite' few. This theory is perhaps bolstered by a quote from David Rockefeller in an article entitled 'From a China Traveler', which appeared in the New York Time on August 10, 1973. He wrote:

"Whatever the price of the Chinese Revolution, it has obviously succeeded not only in producing more efficient and dedicated administration, but also in fostering high morale and community of purpose. The social experiment in China under Chairman Mao's leadership is one of the most important and successful in human history."

He wrote it after visiting China earlier that year. It was later in 1973 that he created the globalist organisation the Trilateral Commission. Of course the 'social experiment' incurred multiple millions of deaths in China which was then a communist dictatorship. Whether or not China can still be described as communist is debatable but it is still a dictatorship. Regardless this is a system that is greatly admired by globalists and world government advocates such as David Rockefeller.

As hinted at above, there are also spiritual deceptions at play in the 'exposure' of the New World Order by the, so called, 'truth movement'. In fact it seems that it's the spiritual element of the agenda that is the most important and attracts the most deceptions. Even if I made the claim that I knew what they all were (I certainly don't) unravelling them in a blog post would be impossible. To a large extent this is an area where we are all on our own and each of us has to make our own mind up. That said there are a few glaringly obvious deceptions and we can, perhaps, get an idea of the general direction that They are trying to steer us, though perhaps not in any great detail.

We've already discussed the 'oneness' meme, promoted by the likes of David Icke and others. It's fairly self evident that if you want a world government or new world system that you need to find a way to get people to unite. In much the same way that one of the previous 'protocols' quotes highlighted the deceptive misuse of the term 'Liberty, Equality, Fraternity' in order to mislead people, it seems a similar play is at work with the cry for 'oneness'. In the case of Icke, Crane and others this false unity has theosophic (masonic) and new age overtones. Make no mistake, any attempts to reduce or stop altogether the many conflicts in the world is a good thing but that's very different from the promotion of the idea that 'we are all one consciousness'. Most, if not all, of those conflicts are either caused by, or greatly exacerbated by, the very occult 'elite' that now attempting to provide the 'solutions' to them.

Hand in hand with the cries for oneness is the idea we are all about to experience a 'consciousness shift'. This is heavily tied in with the general new age movement but more specifically with the 'end of the Mayan calendar/2012 meme. One of the features of this deception is that what we are witnessing now is just the old order crumbling away and the painful birth pangs of a wondrous new (order) age. In fact we don't have to do anything about the old order and their attempts at world control because they are destined to fail. A careful reading of this sees that it ties in with the theory outlined above. That is the New Word Order, as presented to us today, is being equated with the old order and that it is intended to fail. When it does the real New World Order or New Age will arrive.

Tony Blair once said, in a speech entitled 'Faith and Globalisation', that: 

"… the forces shaping the world at this moment are so strong and all tend in one direction." 

They are strong and tending in one direction because they are part of the occult oligarchy's drive to create a New World Order. The forces may be either spiritual or worldly but they are all moving the same way under the control and guidance of the ruling 'elite'. Whether it be the 'oneness' meme, mass immigration, the EU or the global warming scam, they are all part of the same, truly evil, agenda.

Blair is a willing and key servant of this occult oligarchy. He served his globalist masters well during his time as Prime Minister of Britain and he's continued to do so since he left. One of his new roles is the creation of the 'Tony Blair Faith Foundation'. Unsurprisingly we read the usual feel-good platitudes that his foundation aims to promote 'respect and understanding' between the world's religions. All well and good you might think but look a little deeper and it's clear that there's more going on here than meets they eye. It has to be seen in the context of the ecumenical drive for the unifying of the world's religions. This movement is seen by many as being led by Rome. 


The fact that Tony Blair converted to Roman catholicism when he left office does little to cast doubts on this.  

If a unity of the world's religions is to take place then it's inevitable that this will involve a form of compromise. In the speech mentioned above Blair spoke of the 'extremist and exclusionary tendency' within religions. We can already begin to see that anyone who resists this process is likely to be labelled with similar terms. From David Icke and the Zeitgeist films within the 'truth movement' and elsewhere within the broader new age movement, we've seen attempts to undermine and discredit Christianity. Of course the attempts by Zeitgeist and others have been thoroughly debunked but it does serve to show how Christianity, if not Jesus himself, is a target of the occultists. Realising this is only part of the story though, Christianity has itself been infiltrated and false teachers abound. Of course the Bible predicts that such events would occur but even so, seeing clearly through the many deceptions is far from easy.

One of the areas used to deceive that is relevant to what we're discussing here is the interpretation of Biblical prophecy. This area has long been debated and has an interesting history. Most, if not all, of the main protagonists in the Protestant Reformation pointed to the Papacy as being anti-Christ, a view with which many still concur. They had what was broadly referred to as a 'historical' view of prophecy. That saw it as an unfolding process throughout history that would culminate in the future with Jesus Christ's second coming. Essentially there were two other interpretations, 'preterism' and 'futurism'. The preterist sees all, or most, of prophecy as having already happened whilst the futurist sees almost all of it as happening in the future. Discussing the various elements of all three beliefs would take far too long. One thing that is significant though is that although the historical view was once the most widespread, that has now been replaced with a futurist or dispensationalist interpretation. Part of this view sees the creation of the state of Israel as evidence of prophecy unfolding. The futurist model, broadly speaking, foretells of a coming one-world dictator, the anti-Christ, who will makes a Treaty or Covenant with the 'Jews', then break it after 31/2 years and who is then worshipped in a rebuilt Jewish Temple, from which he will impose the Mark of the Beast. If nothing else I've come to the conclusion that this is an incorrect view of prophecy and is being used to deceive. It's not the only part but it is does seem to be an important element of the 'end times' delusion. It's worth noting that it seems a key aim of freemasonry is to see a rebuilt Temple of Solomon and this interpretation of prophecy does appear to be a possible way to bring this about. There's strong evidence that suggests that Israel and Jerusalem in particular, is intended to be the spiritual centre of the proposed new world system. 

Even if you're not a Bible believer it's worth considering that the 'forces shaping this world' may be using a false interpretation of prophecy to help bring about their aims. To not get caught up in the deceptions that are likely to abound will take a great deal of discernment by each and every one of us. As has been noted earlier and in several of the articles on this blog Alice A Bailey, the third leader of the theosophists, has played and through her legacy continues to play, a decisive role in the spiritual dimension of the New World Order agenda. On the Lucis Trust website we read:

'Maitreya'  allegedly appearing
before crowds in Nairobi in 1988
"Humanity is not following an uncharted course. There is a divine Plan in the Cosmos of which we are a part. At the end of an age human resources and established institutions seem inadequate to meet world needs and problems. At such a time the advent of a Teacher, a spiritual leader or Avatar, is anticipated and invoked by the masses of humanity in all parts of the world….. Today the reappearance of the World Teacher, the Christ, is expected by millions, not only by those of Christian faith but by those of every faith who expect the Avatar under other names — the Lord Maitreya, Krishna, Messiah, Imam Mahdi and the Bodhisattva.”

Of course Christianity is expecting the return of Jesus Christ and not the false 'christ' suggested by Bailey. It seems though that some sort of spiritual leader may well be presented as the saviour of a humanity traumatised by war and a whole host of other 'tribulations'. Taking this, the focus on Israel and the rebuilding of the Temple and the drive to unite the religions all into account, there's another possible scenario to look out for. The author of this article attended a lecture by someone called Bill Lambert who was the 'New England Director of the House of Theosophy'. The lecture was entitled 'Possible and Probable Events in the Future'. Amongst other revelations, what was foreseen was the building of a combined Temple, Church and Mosque in Jerusalem where the Theosophical 'christ' would be received. This scenario would obviously come about only after Alice A Baliley's 'destructive crisis' had swept the world and would form part of her 'period of reconstruction'. Such an endeavour makes more sense in terms of trying to unite the world's religions in a new 'one world' system.

The issue of being directed by 'entities' is a long and difficult one. As well as guiding the likes of Bailey and her predecessor Blavatsky, we've also seen that they are 'guiding' many that are involved in the new age, 2012 and truth movements. People such as David Icke, Jordan Maxwell and David Wilcock all purport to be in contact with 'entities'. Whether they be ascended masters, Ra or the Pleiadians they all seem to be saying a similar thing and attempting to move humanity in a particular direction. By their fruits shall ye know them and the deceptive nature of these 'entities' lends support to the idea that they are demonic spirits. A difficult concept to grasp for sure but one that the evidence suggests could well be true. When we look at how the entities, said to be guiding David Icke, are supposedly exposing the New World Order it seems there is only one conclusion. It is being deliberately revealed and simultaneously associated with the current systems of government, mainly in the 'Western' world. We are at the same time being encouraged to 'unite' (into one) and 'rise up' against this evil New World Order in order to destroy it. This process will contribute to the chaos out of which the Freemasonic/Theosophic, Satanic/Luciferian order will be imposed. The 'evil' New World Order's role is really to put in place the apparatus for the real one which is the false utopia that will be presented after whatever cataclysms and crises they've got lined up and the 'evil' New World Order has been 'defeated'. As well as being constantly fed with information about this 'evil' New World Order many are at the same time being simultaneously steered towards a sort of New Age/Masonic/Theosophic way of thinking. This will in turn form part of the new, occult, spiritual system of the New Age. Some have observed that this is what Bailey described as the 'Externalisation of the Hierarchy'.

Anyone reading this may well say, what can we do. I only wish I had some concrete answers. The problem that faces us is that the majority dismiss the idea of there being any sort of conspiracy. Their rebellion, if at all, will be of a purely political nature and to a large extent of the left wing variety. It's here I should mention one other, possible, twist in the tale. Writer Lee Penn sees the possibility that whilst at the moment most may see the danger as coming from a 'leftist' and 'new age' New World Order that an 'unexpected peril' may well be the emergence of a 'rightist' seemingly Christian one. This is essentially a variation on the idea of a false New World Order being seen to be 'defeated' then replaced by the false utopia planned all along. This theory sees the occult, theosophic and new age elements also 'exposed' and and a swing in the, seemingly, opposite direction is then manipulated. This 'Christian' New World Order would be an inversion of true Christianity and would take the form of a sort of theocratic dictatorship that promised to save us from the New World Order. Penn quotes the writer C.S. Lewis as saying:

“The loftier the pretensions of the power, the more meddlesome, inhuman, and oppressive it will be.  Theocracy is the worst of all possible governments... "

He also refers to Matthew 24: 24 in the Bible:

"For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect"

The point being that Biblical prophecy says that many true Christians will be deceived during the 'end times' and the scenario outlined by Penn is one way in which this might happen. 

So what can we do. We appear to face a 'hydra-headed' monster that operates through numerous fronts. Those willing to do the research are faced with a, sometimes, bewildering amount of information and theories that shows any number of groups or organisations involved in the agenda. It seems that, to a large degree, this has been done on purpose and is part of the game being played. Some will say the capstone is the hierarchy of the Vatican, along with the likes of the Jesuits and the Knights of Malta. Others say it's the Zionists, the Talmudic and Cabbalistic Jewish elite along with the international bankers, possibly including the British Israel movement. It seems that somehow the Crown or City of London fits into this nexus, along with the royal and aristocratic bloodline families, mainly of Europe, perhaps with the Saxe-Coburg-Gotha's, our won royal family, at the top of that particular tree. Then there's the secret society networks that include certain Freemasonic groups as well as the likes of Skull and Bones or the Ordo Templi Orientis. On a political level some will point to international communism or the Fabian socialists. Then there are the numerous organisations and think tanks such as the Bilderbergers, the Council on Foreign Relations and the Club of Rome, funded by the multi-billionaire 'capitalists' such as the Rockefellers. Essentially, it seems they are all, on one level, controlled and part of the same agenda. These are the 'forces' Tony Blair said were shaping the world. The question debated is who controls who? Can we know for sure? I'm not sure we can. My own best guess is that we can look to the Bible for an idea of what it is we face. A synthesis of the 'Synagogue of Satan' (those who 'say they are Jews, and are not') and 'Rome' with both having their roots in Babylon and in conjunction with the 'bloodlines'.

Attempts to 'take on' these forces at the current time may well be doomed to failure if for no other reason than the majority of people would dismiss the idea of there being an agenda of any sort, let alone the people mentioned being involved. There's a far greater appetite for some sort of major political change because most can't see past that level of control. The levers of power are pulled at a much higher level than a mere politician. Any solution that doesn't acknowledge that isn't going to meet with any real success.

On an individual level we can strive and even pray for, discernment in the coming tribulations. Each one of us has to come to our own conclusions about what we face and how we can avoid the carefully prepared traps. Any collective solution is hampered by the numerous deceptions that abound. My own thoughts are that instead of some sort of direct action against those we perceive as being the New World Order architects we should try and 'call their bluff', so to speak. Instead of just blindly rebelling without any real thoughts to a workable alternative we would need a clear idea of what it is we were fighting for. Perhaps a declaration, modelled on the American Declaration of Independence, could be sought. A document that not only stated what our aims were but also the reasons why the declaration was necessary. A secondary document could then provide the evidence for those stated reasons. Part of the original declaration would have to acknowledge the need for a constitutional review of some sort. The Chartists movement of the 19th century could provide inspiration. One example of such an effort appears to be already happening, though it appears unlikely that the 'hidden hand' of the ruling occult 'elite' has been acknowledged. It is still worth keeping an eye on though. Although there are groups, such as the BCG, out there encouraging a return to our constitution it's by no means clear that that constitution has ever truly served the interests of us all or whether it was for the benefit of just the elect few.

This would be no easy task at the best of times and it's beyond my capabilities to attempt to draft anything that would suffice. Collectively this might be possible but by whom and how. As we've seen we are being encouraged to rise up, rebel and revolt. This is seen as necessary because of what's wrong rather than being driven by a clear vision of an alternative to the current malaise. A blind rebellion can only play into the hands of the occult oligarchy. A declaration with which, if not all but at least most, agreed could serve as a rallying point and attempts to fulfil it could be made without resort to violence. Any suggestions along these lines would be gratefully received. In the meantime we can only educate ourselves and attempt to unravel the tangled web that has been woven. 

If even a small number manage to see through the innumerable layers of deception then we may yet have a chance of defeating the New World Order dream of the occultists who control this world. Returning to Bible prophecy there's many who will be aware that something, at least very similar to what is happening now, is predicted in there. As mentioned earlier it does appear that there's an attempt by the ruling 'elite' to make a version of it seem to be coming 'true'. What then of the real thing. In recent months I've found myself drawn ever closer to the words and teachings of Jesus, particularly in the Gospels. A situation I never dreamt possible not too long ago. It's a Christianity not reflected in the organised churches, especially in the Catholic Church or Church of England. I've no qualms in saying that we are in, what can only be described as, a battle between good and evil. Perhaps even a battle for the soul and destiny of mankind. So should I, or anyone professing to be a Christian, just sit back and wait for prophecy to unfold? Safe in the knowledge that Satan (the opposer) will eventually get his just deserts. It seems to me the answer is no. Firstly it would be incorrect to assume that these are the predicted 'end times', which is not to say that we shouldn't be alert to the possibility that they are. Evil is always to be resisted and the unnecessary wars, false flag 'terrorist' attacks, engineered economic and banking 'collapses', wholesale brainwashing of the population, lies, deceit and manipulations of our self appointed 'elite' rulers can't be described as anything but evil. How we resist is for us all to decide for ourselves, but we must all be very wary of not inadvertently serving the very cause we thought we were opposing. 

These are times like no other. When I survey the world around me, particularly 'modern' Britain, I really can't help but feel that only divine intervention can help us now. 

163 comments:

keith butler said...

I found walter veith on ytube to be very revealing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GnFwapMZqU&feature=relmfu

Revolution Harry said...

Thanks Keith. I've watched an awful lot of Walter Veith's lectures. I may not agree with him 100% but I've learnt a great deal from him.

Anonymous said...

Epic Harry and good to see you back after a long break. What an article to say the least. Agreat summation for all on the NWO. Atruly riveting read!

regards

Harbinger

Anonymous said...

As you know RH, my take is Judaism that sits atop the pyramid. Why? Well of all the groups that work together within the NWO, the common denominator is Judaism.

The Royal Family was infiltrated by the Rothschilds along with the Roman Catholic Church. Freemasonry was also inflitrated by Jews. The American presidents have all been esquires to the crown of England and the Queen. Communism, the Russian administration and the murder of the Goyim was created, staffed and carried out by the Jews. The MSM, Judiciary and banking systems are all controlled by Jews..... It doesn't matter where you look, guaranteed you'll find a Jew at its core. And of course, the rabbis came from Babylon who taught the traditions of the elders (the talmud) which is the sole authority on Judaism, above the bible. The Jews have been hated throughout history for their manipulation of the money supply and of course usury. Remember Rothschild's quote on a nation's wealth and laws?

I'll leave you with a quote:-

“In 1492, Chemor, chief Rabbi of Spain, wrote to the Grand Sanhedrin, which had its seat in Constantinople, for advice, when a Spanish law threatened expulsion. This was the reply:

Beloved brethren in Moses, we have received your letter in which you tell us of the anxieties and misfortunes which you are enduring. We are pierced by as great pain to hear it as yourselves.

The advice of the Grand Satraps and Rabbis is the following:

1. As for what you say that the King of Spain 3 obliges you to become Christians: do it, since you cannot do otherwise.

2. As for what you say about the command to despoil you of your property: make your sons merchants that they may despoil, little by little, the Christians of theirs.

3. As for what you say about making attempts on your lives: make your sons doctors and apothecaries, that they may take away Christians’ lives.

4. As for what you say of their destroying your synagogues: make your sons canons and clerics in order that they may destroy their churches.

5. As for the many other vexations you complain of: arrange that your sons become advocates and lawyers, and see that they always mix in affairs of State, that by putting Christians under your yoke you may dominate the world and be avenged on them.

6. Do not swerve from this order that we give you, because you will find by experience that, humiliated as you are, you will reach the actuality of power.

(Signed) PRINCE OF THE JEWS OF CONSTANTINOPLE.” (L. Fry, Waters Flowing Eastward: The War Against the Kingship of Christ. TBR Books, Washington, D. C., (2000), pp. 51-52; also see these facsimiles of this letter, one & two)


regards

Harbinger

Revolution Harry said...

Ha, we've had this discussion before H. All I can say is maybe. There's no doubt that the 'Jewish' elite form a significant element of the control structure. Whether it's they that call the shots with the Vatican, the bloodlines and secret society networks all being subservient to them is, at best, debatable. As I said in the post, it's possible we'll never know for sure. At least until it's all over. My best advice is to keep an eye on them all.

Zoompad said...

I have been looking at Peter Power this morning, Visor Consultants, 180 Piccadilly, London W1J9HF

That office listed is just too small to have been where Peter Power and his friends planned the 7/7 training exercise. It is the address of the Virtual Office Group, founded by Richard Nissen. He had a plumbing firm called Staunch and Flow. He is also a member of the "charity", the British Council.

The British Councils address is sandwiched in the MOD in London. It is the most peculiar charity I ever saw!

Anonymous said...

Great article Harry,

I found these short video clips a good summary for those unfamiliar with Michael Hoffman’s work and Yuri Bezmenov. I still have suspicions that Yuri Bezmenov furthered the psychological warfare by revealing it (Revelation of the Method ) and don’t endorse the organization linked at the end of the video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_O2vSDc5dM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMWVUoYNezU

The excerpts below, from ‘Satan: Prince of This World’ are significant in explaining why all these ‘secrets’ are now being deliberately exposed as well. Kind of makes sense when you see all these secrets being handed out like candy ( bait ).

“Not one freemason in a thousand even suspects that Freemasonry, together with ALL other secret societies, is to be destroyed in the final stage of the conspiracy, together with all other religions, so that only the true light of the Pure doctrine of Lucifer will be used to influence the human mind.”
“In order to drive the final nails in the coffin of those who try to make the general public believe that ALL Freemasons are tarred with the same brush “Satanism” and/or Luciferianism, I wish to point out that both Weishaupt and Pike took particular care to provide for the total destruction of Freemasonry, together with all other secret societies, in the final stages of the conspiracy.

“Masonry” continues Pike, “like all religions, all mysteries, hermeticism and alchemies, hide secrets from
everyone except the Initiated Sages or Elects, and employs false explanations and interpretations of its symbols to deceive those who deserve to be deceived, and to hide from them the truth, which is called LIGHT and to separate them from it.”19

Revolution Harry said...

Thanks Anon,

Good video by the young girl. What was a bit sad was the number of dislikes it attracted.

You may well be right about Bezmenov. In fact if there's any cause to doubt his authenticity it's the fact he was being interviewed by G. Edward Griffin who I'm more than a little wary of.

The Carr quote fits in well with my suspicions about how the agenda is to be played out.

James Higham said...

Excellent piece:

then uses this as a tool to herd the newly 'awakened' into the very Theosophical, New Age, false utopia that it seems has been the aim all along.

This use of deceptive language or seductive, tempting ideas to manipulate people in a particular direction is an important thing to be very aware of

False prophets everywhere and the predicted and obvious actually happening. Sleepwalking to oblivion is right, minds are closed.

Anonymous said...

Totally agree with your doubts about G. Edward Griffin. Bezmenov also gives himself away in a very subtle manner, look closely at his face during the interview. He cracks a grin at the most inappropriate times, and it reminds me of shills like Gerald Celente; they find it all intensely entertaining.

I was also discouraged to see the number of dislikes the video by the young girl attracted, very frustrating.

Here’s the best video clip I’ve found of Alex Jones signaling, he’s usually much more subtle. Notice how he tells his viewers exactly what’s being done and mocks them at the same time. It’s beyond insidious.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVznhQnaGPU

Revolution Harry said...

I could only take so much of that Alex Jones clip. I find him almost impossible to watch these days. Insidious just about sums him up.

Anonymous said...

Hi Harry, nice to see you back in the saddle.

Another blockbuster to chew on, I suppose this is a fairly accurate assumption of all your work to date.

The NWO marches on, chaos reigns, I'm going to take mainly the local view here in the UK. I've no idea where this post is going - I've no agenda, it's straight off the cuff with the bark on.

I set out about six years ago to try and find out what was going on, (it became my quest.) Things were going on in my country I couldn’t fathom, things like immigration on an undreamed of scale and not even being discussed at any level bar the BNP. And then they were obsessed not with immigration per se but with Muslim dominated immigration, which made me suspicious.

I think it will make things easier if I make a list of 'happenings' here which I saw when I set out.

First, immigration as just mentioned above.

Race was placed firmly at the front on the 21st century map under Blair's New Labour. War was declared by government on its own people, accusations of racism and legislative hate crimes were introduced along with other anti-white measures. Affirmative action in employment and allocation of housing among them. All of which was forbidden territory for debate.

Mainstream Media (BBC) were clearly at the fore-front of the new multicultural agenda, they were, and continue to be the organ of the establishment, so successful have they been in distracting and hoodwinking the British people with bread and circuses that by far the majority of the people are unaware of the threat that is facing them. In fact I would go as far as to say the BBC are confident in their victory and declare Britain is now an established multicultural nation. Game set and match.

The resurrection of World War II after 60 years, Hitler, Holocaust, Nazis, thrown seemingly at random into any conversation. Very odd, why? A whole new lexicon crept into the mainstream discourse - tolerance, bigot, racism, hate, fascist, gay, discrimination, community, shared values, we did the right thing, victim, oppressor - given time and a Google search the list is endless.

The attack on the Christian religion and its civilisational values. The family, morality, the whole ethos of what we are mercilessly attacked and denigrated. It's cool to be gay.

Post-modernism. Most folk think post-modernism is about art that looks weird, some of it is about art but how many of you know that post-modernism is at the very epicentre of what we're experiencing to-day. I don't profess to understand it all but the bit that interests me is the post-modernism which is in the context of a philosophical viewpoint arrived at by a bunch of thinkers and opinion formers at the end of the last (20th) century. The conclusions drawn by these intellects espouse the heterosexual white male was/is the roadblock to human progress and must go, be got rid off. The white male had been responsible for all the world's (mankind's) ills. Slavery, colonisation, nuclear war, industrial revolution, environmental degradation and much more. I urge you to familiarise yourself with the central tenets of post modernism thinking because the whole thing has been adopted in the form of the new (neo)-liberalism which is driving the globalist agenda, otherwise known as the New World Order.

Anonymous said...

Continued from 9.45 PM

As a result of post-modern thinking our (Western) culture and values (Christianity) has been overturned, no wonder I thought my life had been turned upside down.

Our so called democratic political electoral system has always been a total scam. There is no longer any pretence by our political leaders that elections have any relevance, Blair, Brown and now Cameron just stick two fingers up to the electorate and do their own thing. Once again the BBC, (Media) fool the masses into the red team – blue team matrix, it works every time.

I see a comprehensive alliance of (social) liberalism, (aka) Cultural Marxism and Capitalism, with the usual suspects bankers, media and politicians added to the mix. Where the illuminate fit into all of this I'm not quite sure - Maybe in all of it.

I think I will end here. What I have written is but the basic of basics, no doubt you can add your own pieces to the NWO jigsaw. Is the EU a vital part of it?

I haven't got the time, (or the knowledge) to go into the spiritual New Age side of the New World Order. All I will say here is that I see little evidence in the media world of pushing this side of things, nowhere near as much as the political machinations of the now political. Maybe it's just me, not up to speed.

Cheers Bill.

Revolution Harry said...

Thanks Bill. I've struggled to write these last few months for a number of reasons but you're right, this is pretty much a summary of my thoughts to date.

As you know the immigration issue is an important one for me and I still struggle to comprehend what is taking place. It really is like a bad dream. On that score I'm thinking of updating my 'Mass Immigration and the New Tower of Babel' piece and making it into a film of sorts. I think it would have the possibility of being easier to digest and reach more people.

Post modernism is one of many fronts through which the broader agenda is being pursued. As with many other of these 'fronts' it is extremely deceptive and behind it lies a much darker intent than most would realise.

The spiritual dimension isn't really pursued through the mass media directly. Much of that is 'behind the scenes' in things such as the interfaith movement or 'dialogue' between the various faiths. Then there's the broader 'New Age' movement which covers a wide variety of 'spiritual' beliefs and seems to be spreading exponentially. There's actually quite a lot happening in these areas but the knowledge of this tends to be restricted to those who are interested in such things. It seems to me that many seeds are being sown for events in the future.

Cheers,

Harry

Anonymous said...

Thanks Harry, a film eh? That would be something.

I share your sentiments, I watch the BBC news and then look out of the window, all appears normal in my part of the world.

People leaving for work, children for school, people tending their gardens, going shopping and even to church.

I am convinced that if I could talk to them, (as here) they would be perplexed and think I'm mad, hastily back away, turning and running, pointing in my direction screaming he's mad.

Here's a must read. Is this where it all comes to a head?

Bill

http://www.counter-currents.com/2012/07/interview-with-alexander-dugin/#more-29175

Anonymous said...

excellent piece of work harry,thankyou.

it does appear that nationalism and religion are both being put forward as being the main enemies,and as such should alert us to their being a credible resistance to them.

once you realise which tribe has constantly been behind the demoralisation of mankind,then the only natural response is to ally yourself with christianity,which has warned about them since the beginning.

a strong christian faith enables one to resist the corrupting influences and to see through the lies of equality and the liberty to degrade oneself sexually.

christianity also gives some points to hone in on.

1.no usury

2.no foreigners in any position of power over the natives

3.no public display of sexual affection.(bible says no fornication actually,but interfering in other peoples private lives at home i think is wrong)

those might be accepted by people,but to really fix the mess we would have to add these as well.

1.'each after his own kind'no race mixing at all.

2.no divorce,no bigamy

3.women wear a veil (cover up,have some respect for men's inability to control the release of their brain-clouding testosterone)

4.natives should take precedence over all foreigners in every matter,if they still wish to stay

5.no more immigration,repatriation offered.

i think a lot of the truth disinformation seems to be aimed at discrediting the national socialist movement of germany.there are lots of sites making false accusations about hitler being part of the nwo plans,when he was the most successful example of resistance to them.any sites that slur hitler or national socialism have either been taken in by the disinformation themselves,or are directly implicated in spreading it,such as alex jones.this is a good article on that type of thing.

http://zioncrimefactory.com/patriotard-lies-about-hitler/

just the amount of people using words like neo-nazi,or zionist nazi to describe the nwo show how successful their disinformation has been.

this documentary is as truthful as it gets about hitler.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lejfGhWeakY&feature=player_embedded

this is how he defied the bankers,unlike the story being peddled that he was in the pockets of them.

http://wakeupfromyourslumber.com/node/6720

really pleased to see you back blogging again,yours is one of the best there is.

great to see you back.

Revolution Harry said...

Bill, when I say film I mean a narration with some images and Youtube clips. So far it's just an aspiration. The first hurdle is the narrator. My Black Country accent doesn't really work. The alternative is a computer generated voice but the good ones cost money and even then It's hard to know if they would be suitable. Anyway, let's wait and see.

I don't know too much about Alexander Dugin but there were some things in the interview I concurred with. That said he seems to take a straight forward view of politics and history whereas my perspective is more 'conspiratorial'. That is that there is an agenda being played out that operates above the received political and national levels.

He was asked about the European New Right. Just as I've observed 'controlled opposition' within the, so called, 'truth movement' it's clear that a similar situation is evident within 'nationalist' circles. I view all of these 'new right' or nationalist types who are both fervently anti-Christian and pro-pagan with extreme suspicion. It seems to be a similar modus operandi to where the followers of Icke are led astray with an anti-Christian and new age perspective.

Cheers,

Harry.

Revolution Harry said...

Thanks Anon,

I'm not altogether sure it's just one particular tribe, more than some elements (Pharisees?) of that tribe subscribing to, what's best described as, Babylonianism. It's Babylon in all its forms, including its Talmudic strain, that is the problem and that has to be defeated. Christianity is the best, if not the only, way of doing this.

No usury is self evident but many of the other issues would resolve themselves if the malign influence of the occult 'elite' were removed. I think we should avoid the sort of 'theocratic dictatorship' that C.S. Lewis warned about. Christianity contains within it free will. That is it has to be chosen not enforced.

I suspect there's a multi-level psy-op at work with regards to the Nazis. I can see nothing of benefit within Nazism to anyone who wishes to resist the NWO or indeed the globalisation agenda that seeks to destroy the nation state and the peoples that created them. I've read convincing article detailing the Nazis links to high occultism, the Vatican and the Zionist elite. It seems clear to me that Hitler was a tool of the ruling powers and was used to further the wider agenda, even if he was eventually betrayed. Of course since then both he and the Nazis have been made synonymous with any sort of nationalist resistance. Ironic really seeing as they were more internationalist than their name suggests. It may well be that the 'bankers' allowed Hitler to self finance his rise to power and increase Germany's military capabilities because it suited their long term aims. Namely a second World War. Ultimately its difficult to know the truth about these matters for certain but if anyone is tempted to use the Nazis as a model for resisting the NWO I can't see how it can do anything but play into the hands of the PTB.

Thanks again,

Harry.

nwo-truthresearch said...

Jesuit priest Jacques Dupuis stated: "The religion of the future will be a general converging of religions in a universal Christ that will satisfy all. The other religious traditions in the world are part of God’s plan for humanity and the Holy Spirit is operating and present in Buddhist, Hindu and other sacred writings of Christian and non-Christian faiths as well. The universality of God’s kingdom permits this, and this is nothing more than a diversified form of sharing in the same mystery of salvation."
http://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com/blog/?p=6844

Zoompad said...

Harry, I didn't realise you were from the Black Country, I am a Brummie as well, can I give you one word of advice and it is this, NEVER be ashamed of your accent, I tried to self elocute my Brummie twang out using a library book because I felt ashamed of the way I sounded compared with the other girls at Stafford Girl's High School, but now I just think, what on earth did I do that for? People like to laugh at the Brummie accent and say it's ugly, well, thats their opinion, only snooty snobs would write people off because of their regional accent. You shouldnt let your accent get in the way of you making videos if you want to. Sorry if I am being a bit outspoken, but it touched a raw nerve what you said.

Zoompad said...

Well, I won't be going to the Brian Gerrish Skegness conference to confront John Hemming MP over Colin Tucker and the Swiss charity Land of Men and see Brian Gerrish fiddling after all.

I have just been informed by two rather agitated Brian Gerrish groupies on Facebook that if I dare to show my face at Skegness I will end up having a fist busted into it. These are both women that are supposed to be advocates against child abuse, and mothers. Last year my mother, who is in her 80's had her window smashed in by two thugs in a white van after I attended the Stoke rally, and I do not think it was unconnected with me attending the rally and giving John Hemming a piece of my mind in front of everyone.

I think I will avoid being taken to hospital with GBH or any further attacks on members of my family and stay at home instead.

What was enlightening about the whole er conversation is that some of the things that were said were like an echo of what Stafford Police said when I made a complaint about the death threat I recieved posted on my anti child abuse blog earlier this year. The same language used. I thought it was rather enlightening at any rate. Also, someone said that I had just been released from a mental hospital before the Stoke rally, which is news to me, as I thought it was an eye hospital, which is why I had a ruddy great patch over one eye in the video!

I think I have probably ran about as far as I can go with this. I know when I am beaten, and when it is best to back off. There are too many of them for me. I will of course be praying about this though.

Revolution Harry said...

Grazie NWO-Truthresearch and thanks for the link.

Thanks Zoompad. It's not that I'm particularly ashamed of my accent but I just have to face the facts which are, as you say, some people don't respond well to it. Accent apart, I just don't seem to have an appropriate voice for narration either. A future in TV voice overs doesn't look like it's for me.

Anonymous said...

Great article as usual harry, and its good to see you back.
I read all your articles, and I have to agree with most of what you say, having researched the whole of the "truther" NWO, illuminati, freemason, occult thories (you get the picture).
I have been currently looking into the latest (although started a while back) big thing being pushed that being the Lawful rebellion scene gaining popularity at the moment, and wondered what your opinion was on it ?.
It all seems a bit far out to me (strawman,common law,poll tax being illegal etc etc), im well versed with the fiat monetry system which seems to be enveloped within LR.
What im wondering is, am i being lead up the garden path again with all this talk ? I read and hear many people espousing LR theories, but not much in the form of it being put into practice personally by these people, which makes me doubt it, I have been following Roger hayes and the BCG for a while now as well as john harris (tpuc) and many more besides.
Is Lawful rebbellion/lawful bank the way forward ? Is reacerting my common law rights and ignoreing statutes because i havnt consented to them, correct and lawful/legal ?, do i have to pay polltax, the TV liscence ?.
Many questions I know, but my intuition tells me that trying these things could get me into a whole lot of trouble and possibly imprisoned,(roger hayes incarceration springs to mind).
Any thoughts on this Harry ?

Revolution Harry said...

Thanks Anon. As you'll see from the strap line at the top of the page I'm more than aware of the Lawful Rebellion thing. Although aware of it I never really bought into it totally. Partly because it seemed pretty complex and difficult to fully understand. I realised that in order to completely grasp it all I'd have to do an awful lot of research. At the time my interests lay elsewhere so I decided to just keep a watchful eye on it and see where it led.

I still don't know what to make of it to be honest. My best guess is that it clearly has some importance but there are elements within the movement leading it astray or at least controlling it to some degree.

It has struck me that in many ways it's the direct opposite of the collectivisation agenda pursued by those clamouring for world government. By that I mean, in some ways, it takes individualism to an extreme.

It's also possible that it is being used for the sort of controlled rebellion I discuss in the article. That is, it has the potential to be used as one of the elements involved in the 'collapse' of the 'Western' system. It's one of the ways we are being urged to 'rise up' etc. This is particularly true in regards to the law/legal system. Whilst it's obvious this doesn't operate to our benefit it seems to me that the risk is being run of throwing the baby out with the bath water, so to speak. Many statutes are used against us but if it was shown that all statutes were 'illegal' there's a potential for ensuing chaos. Similarly with tax and specifically council tax. If it were definitively proved that the collection of these was illegal and a significant number stopped paying, we can only imagine what the result would be. There are many things wrong with the current system but we have to proceed with caution as to how we right those wrongs.

All in all, as I said, I'm just not sure but I watch all developments in that field with a wary eye.

Anonymous said...

Understanding The Zeitgeist Movement Critics..

http://youtu.be/XRI8QSpD3_s

Anonymous said...

Hi Harry-as usual a very good writ from you.I mentioned in the past that i pretty much reached the same conclusion as you about the way things work. Having come full circle from a dedicated Christian ,to non- believer,to Christian again,all through studying widely,i have to agree that the spiritual component is vastly important,and i'm not talking organised religeon here.I know one thing though( as you said as well), and that is: it is our DUTY to act upon this evil,and not wait for a miraculous intervention from heaven if it ever comes.There's no way for us to know if or when such an event may occur.So i would like to give a few ideas on what our absolute duty should be--or else we are all guilty of this crime( the law states categorically that you are if you are in the know and remain silent/ inactive. I've broken my head in the past to sort out WHO is responsible,and you know what? It's not important whether Jew, Jesuit,Freemason,Luciferians or who ever. FACT 1 is ,it's glaringly obvious that some "groups" are taking us down a very evil path.FACT 2 is that we need to do something pronto to stop this before bit's too late.Resultantly we need to stop worrying who it is but concentrate on our battle plan.Like any war strategist we need to plan our prongs of attack (you don't foolishly attack your enemy's stronghold,you strike logistically and render them defenceless.In this struggle we need to establish the 2 things that's leaving us defenseless at the moment,LAW and MONEY.If we don't focus on those ,we won't stand a chance

We urgently NEED to establish our own courts(common law courts of record) where the criminal actions of the perpetrators can be judged by our juries,and where we can seek real justice for our so-called crimes.I know Roger Hayes talked a lot about it and apparently we are setting up such structures.Where/how /when i don't know,and whether it's happening i'm not sure.GICOR http://www.courtofrecord.org/gicor/ is in existence,but again i'm not sure how and where. A fantastic website imho,for obtaining knowledge about real democracy is :http://www.democracydefined.org/

However, these things may take time and knowledge,etc. but the one,most effective thing we can ALL start to do is concentrate on the money issue.There is not a single more effective thing we can do(and lawfully as well) ,than to collectively drain their life blood away.In fact,i believe it's the only thing we can do,and should do,and must do asap.Just think about it people,it's the most effective tool we have and we don't use it!! It's our duty lawfully to do it as well.I stumbled onto this last week and thought: eureka!! -great minds think alike.
http://taxrebellion.wordpress.com/

No amount of rioting/protesting/moaning /figuring out who's responsible and especially negotiating is going to solve the problem.In fact,negotiating is one of their main tools of strategy--you will never win that way.That's what they want--so called democratic process through the round table,which they will steer in their direction and outcome.

In a populace hit hard with criminal economic measures,the idea will resound as well.We just need NUMBERS so we need to strike in one big swoop.The idea of an escrow account will also convince those that feel it's illegal,to participate." we are paying,but just await fairness before it's released"

Hope you find something good in here Harry

From Harry

Rufus News From Atlantis said...

Excellent post Harry. The 'Truth Movement' has been compromised at almost every level. The key figure has to be Alex Jones, the big brash Texan, who spreads disinformation and fear to his followers, and ensures that the only 'action' they take is buying his DVDs. He had a site - Social Infowars - to herd his disciples into the correct mindset, but he had to take it down when awake people exposed his lies from within. Funny isn't it, that a man who shouts ceaselessly about Free Speech, cannot tolerate it when it is about his own actions and motives?

Anyway, if you haven't seen it already, the site - http://alexjonesisazionistshill.blogspot.com - may interest you.

As for your Black Country accent being problematic in making a film, what is wrong with 'Yam Yams'? Nero 9 or 10 is good for making youtube films, if you prefer to have scrolling text to illustrate your video clips and slides.

On a final thought, on Thursday 2nd August, David Icke posted an image of Krishnamurti, with the following quote:

"When you call yourself an Indian or a Muslim or a Christian or a European, or anything else, you are being violent. Do you see why it is violent? Because you are separating yourself from the rest of mankind.

When you separate yourself by belief, by nationality, by tradition, it breeds violence. So a man who is seeking to understand violence does not belong to any country, to any religion, to any political party or partial system; he is concerned with the total understanding of mankind."

(Source - Freedom from the Known, p.51-52)

That sounds just like the New World Order of indistinguishable robots that Icke says he is trying to stop. The New Age is just a hippy route to the global gulag.

Lavender Luck said...

Dear Harry,
I am pleased that you are back. While I have a somewhat different take than you overall, I agree that it is worth looking at where obvious (and not-so obvious) fakes are trying to lead us. Another thing I would note, and this sounds strange to myself but I have to confess it-- I agree that the overt evil glorification note is there. Most of my perspective is realpolitik to an extent. But I have to concede that strange disturbing dark messages beyond any degree that I can see as needed for general purposes of destroying religion or civilisation are there. I am not sure what this means.
I too am also skeptical of all messages to ´come together.´ yuck. That is so often where the danger lies. Amish are the least corrupted anabaptist sect in America because they always maintained a desire to be left alone.

Revolution Harry said...

Anon, August 3, 2012 10:11 AM.

I managed about two thirds of the 'essay' before I just got bored I'm afraid. The whole Zeitgeist thing has been so thoroughly debunked it was hardly worth the effort. From what I could see he acknowledged that there was a great deal of 'anti-Zeitgeist' material out there and then gave the impression he was responding to it all by itemising just a few elements of just a few of the innumerable articles that exist. His Michael Moore example was woeful. What Joseph was trying to do there was completely disingenuous. It's no good him complaining about people associating the Zeitgeist movement with the Zeitgeist films, particularly the first one. They have exactly the same names.

Similarly his complaints about being labelled 'conspirituality' ring hollow. Particularly when he allows the movement to be associated with the likes of the event below.

http://zeitgeistmovements.wordpress.com/2012/07/17/the-new-world-fair-2012-a-new-age-conspirituality-fair-featuring-the-zeitgeist-movement/

Revolution Harry said...

Thanks Rufus. That Krishnamurti quote from Icke speaks volumes. Krishnamurti was originally groomed by the Theosophical society to be their 'christ'. He seems to have had second thoughts about it all and eventually left them. The 'hippy route to the global gulag' indeed.

http://cumbey.blogspot.co.uk/2012/03/new-age-campaigns-of-1928-same-themes.html

Yam Yams have many wonderful attributes but sadly it seems film narration isn't one of them. I've found some very good text to speech voices which I think I might use. Scrolling text would work well on shorter pieces with less words but the article I'm trying to make a film out of is rather long. I'm in the process of making a test piece. I might just ask you for your opinion if you're interested.

Revolution Harry said...

Lavender, I certainly didn't intend to take so long between posts. I'd be interested in where our opinions differ. I'm ever eager to hear other people's take on things.

Zoompad said...

I just found out about John Hemmings involvement with the MG Rover stuff. I remember it at the time but didn't realise it was anything to do with John Hemming until a couple of days ago. I remember the Rover story mainly because my dad had a Rover and he was always going on about what a great car it was.

Also, I found this a couple of days ago, and I had absolutly no idea that Hemming was such a learned man, or that he was training to be an astronaut.

http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=web&cd=1&sqi=2&ved=0CFUQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fjohn.hemming.name%2Fabout_john%2Fbiography.php&ei=IuoeUK_ZBMOq0QXEtYG4Dg&usg=AFQjCNGuY8RgAm8lAKEYEcgGKGoum2AMsw&sig2=sEjvRi4lmIUbUTYxkawy9Q

He founded his first business (John Hemming & Co, now JHC plc) at the age of 23. This has grown to become a multi-million pound company and the leading provider of settlement systems to stockbrokers in the UK. John founded the first e-commerce operation (MarketNet) outside the USA in 1994. He also launched the world's first, banking, insurance, legal and stock-broking services on the Internet in 1995. He founded Music Mercia International (MMI), a music company in 1997. In 2000, he founded The Purchasing Agency (also known as SafeSimple.Com) - which competes with Visa and MasterCard.

His technical skills lie particularly in the areas of mathematics and programming. He is an accomplished cryptographer having devised a number of security and payment protocols. He was the first person outside the USA to implement the main SSL World Wide Web security protocol. He is one of the world's leading internet technical experts and programs in eight different programming languages.

And on the subject of stuff about the West Midlands, I have been re-reading this blog post I put up just before I was threatened:

http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=web&cd=1&sqi=2&ved=0CE0QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.birminghampost.net%2Fnews%2Fmgrover%2F2010%2F08%2F31%2Fmystery-23m-claim-on-longbridge-phoenix-cash-65233-27167680%2F&ei=8egeUM2PBuOQ0AXCgYGwAg&usg=AFQjCNGs8ZI-0_JFggUch6tMTrcBsdT6FA&sig2=lSg9SHnTk7aNXcm4sqLzAw



I did this blog post a while ago:

http://zoompad.blogspot.com/2012/04/david-vincent-smith.html

Zoompad said...

Sorry, I got that a bit topsy turvy.

Zoompad said...

Brian Gerrish told us that he was involved in a boat restoration project with young people, that he was helping youngsters to do something wholesome with their time instead of being bored and getting into trouble.

I have just found out what the project he was (or still is, I don't know) involved in, it is called The Devonport Beagle Project.

I found this, but what struck me straight away is the absence of young people in these photos, they are mainly old servicemen.

http://devonportbeagleproject.com/downloads/Lights_Camera_Action.pdf

Anonymous said...

Great article.

For voice-over how about Antony Lawson? Perhaps a tad pompous but loads of gravitas. Please use any music sparingly, if at all.

Revolution Harry said...

Anon, you'll be pleased to know I wasn't planning on using any music whatsoever. Anthony Lawson would be great but the logistics would be impossible, even if he'd do it which I doubt.

Amnesia said...

Good too see you writing again. I think we're all so shell shocked by how the NWO juggernaut just keeps on going, passing whatever laws it wants, stealing whatever it wants, crushing whoever is its way. Diabolical! You can only wait for God to bring the curtain down.

Jalapeno said...

Harry

Another very well written and comprehensive post, well done. I wonder if you would consider putting some of your key posts into a PDF or DOC downloadable format?

I for one would be willing to pay a few quid to have your articles as a point of reference. It was you who first brought to my attention this notion of "them" having all sides pretty much stitched up i.e. with the growth in the Pied Pipers in the "Truth Movement" etc. You also took the trouble to reply to an email I sent you some months ago, at length too, which I really appreciated.

Anyhow keep up the good work Harry - I believe you really are trying to do good in a world controlled by an entity that could only really be described as pure Evil.

Thanks and all credit to you,

John, Sheffield

Revolution Harry said...

Amnesia, I can't help feeling that may be the only way it is going to be ended, although I don't think that means we should stop trying.

Jalapeno, thanks for your comment, it's much appreciated.

I had thought of dong a PDF version of some of the articles but it really requires Acrobat Pro to do it properly. At the moment I'm experimenting with trying to do a video which is proving slightly trickier than anticipated. If only there were more hours in the day : )

Lavender Luck said...

Dear Harry,
Thanks for responding to my comment.You probably don´t want me clogging up your comments explaining exactly what I think. I can just say that I agree that there seems to be a spiritual element that surpasses practicality-- but it is very difficult for me to integrate this into any unified theory with confidence..at this time.

Revolution Harry said...

Fair enough Lavender. I was just interested in what your take on things was, that's all. It's always useful to get other perspectives.

Zoompad said...

I have been reading the link you posted, "Satan Prince of this world" and on page 25 there is this quote, "No officer or man was required to obey an order that is contrary to the commandments of God"

Oh, if only the human race could understand this and love this precept!

Revolution Harry said...

If only Zoompad.

CS said...

Harry, you make a number of good points. But I'm skeptical about the importance of those theosophists -- Madame Blavatsky, deceased 1891, Alice Bailey, deceased 1949.

I think if we are to understand what drives the NWO we have to consider those who are still alive and kicking. And those who are most important likely belong to at least four groups: (1) the plutocrats, e.g., David Rockefeller, Bill Gates, Soros, Peter Thiel and the other dynamic finacial elements; (2) the intellectuals, most of whom exist in the capacity of servants to the plutocracy, e.g., Kissinger, Brzezinski, Robert Cooper (Tony Blair's imperialist foreign policy adviser), and all kinds of others, mainly academics, e.g., the experts on global warming; (3) the political agents, e.g., Bill Clinton, Tony Blair, the Bush family, etc., these are the people who understand the mechanics of the political system, devise strategy and accept payoffs for services rendered to the plutocracy; and (4) the dreamers and philosophers, people like George Orwell, Aldous Huxley, and H.G. Wells.

And beside these groups, secret societies, Zionist cabals, masons, the inner circle of the Round Table Group, if it still exists, may also be important, although since they are secret we naturally know essentially nothing about them.

CS said...

If I may add to my already lengthy comment, I would say that the New World Order has to be understood not as the object of a single, unified movement, but as a goal pursued by different groups in different ways. Such groups include the Communists, somewhat in retreat at present, various nationalists, among them the Chinese and Americans, the money power and perhaps some secret groups other than those created to coordinate the efforts of the money power, which aims one assumes to create a global feudal system, under which the masses are controlled by political institutions firmly in the grip of the plutocracy.

Beside the groups contending for control in a globalized system that I have already mentioned, must be considered the security services, and also the military. Both control massive resources and both are capable of taking control out of the hands of the civilian political authorities.

Because it is their role to act covertly and in devious ways, the security services could very well end up running the show, as they did and still do in Russia, and as they appear to do increasingly in Western nations, where leaders such as Blair, Bush, Sarkozy, Obama look less like leaders than actors placed in position to front for policies determined by hidden forces.

Revolution Harry said...

Thanks CS. It should be clear by now that what we see happening around us today is merely the culmination of an agenda that has been in existence for a considerable period of time. As such characters such as Blavatsky, Bailey and many others had their roles to play. I wouldn't want to overplay the importance of Blavatsky or Bailey but neither do I think we should underplay it. Blavatsky isn't called the mother of the New Age movement for nothing and Bailey's Lucis Trust and World Goodwill are still influential to this day. Not least in regards to the UN (see link below).

All of the people and organisations you mention are involved to some degree or other but I fear it's far more organised than you might think. I've also long come to the realisation that it is the spiritual element of the agenda that is the most important. Witness only the heavy occult symbolism in the three Olympic 'ceremonies' (rituals) for evidence of that. The huge phoenix rising from the flames (directly followed by Take That singing 'Rule the World') in the closing ceremony of the main Olympics was perhaps the most ominous of all.

http://revolutionharry.blogspot.co.uk/2011/11/entire-humanity-must-be-reprogrammed.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnOdi4lWEIE

Anonymous said...

Hi Harry

I've just browsed through your article above for the umpteenth time, and like each other time I am discovering new nuances previously missed or misinterpreted, this must mean a hidden tribute in terms of the brilliance of your presentation, hey, your not one of them are you?

I've resisted (so far) the temptation to comment on the many points as you raise them, trouble is, they're so numerous and potentially complex I recoil at the amount of time it would all take.

In total, what I find as I look around is the vast amount of information/disinformation there is out there, but when this is filtered down most of it is being disseminated within the conspiracy bubble of the Internet, specialist reading and personal tours. IOW's I personally do not detect any general public interest out there on the streets or even a hint of a New World Order conspiracy or global government. I've tried with some of my colleagues and acquaintances to test the water and without exception have received pained looks of incredulity. I've even hinted at our nation's immigration problems and the phenomena of liberal political correctness in a negative way, only to receive the usual 'it's utter madness' in response.

At best therefore, the public interest awareness is no more that 2% (If that, IMO) What with politicians, media and all public news outlets suppressing and demonising any dissent, ensures public awareness remains at near zero.

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Anonymous said...

contiued from 11:42 AM

According to some, this New World Order, (aka global governance, political correctness, globalism, New Age) has been incubating for centuries or at least decades, (take your pick) and for most of this time has been carried out in complete secrecy

So the question must be asked, how has the genie been allowed out of the bottle? I've said many times before on various websites that, (again IMO,) Blair's New Labour project was the chosen vehicle to advance the NWO agenda in Britain. At once it became visibly evident that something was afoot, for immigration was ramped up to chaotic levels accompanied by the insidious ('it's madness') political correctness. This highly visible in your face immigration could not be hidden from view, it was everywhere and lo, people began to notice, (surprise! surprise!) Only MSM censoring accompanied by political vilification of the populace ensured no meaningful conversation was to take place.

Fifteen years later, little has changed in regard to the public awareness situation, this doesn't mean the masses haven't noticed something's amiss, it's just that they can't get their heads around why everything is so chaotic. The masses guess that our political system is broke, hence they're 'all the same'. The masses must see continued mass immigration ultimately a threat to their way of life.

They can't understand why millions of strangers are being allowed into their country when there is so much unemployment and so few jobs. They can't get their heads around why the politicians who they vote into office extol 'multiculturalism enriches their lives.' Most people cannot join the dots as to why there is a housing crisis, this is all so sad but only too true.

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Anonymous said...

continued from 11.46 AM

So what am I saying here? Britain is in chaos and fast becoming ungovernable, nothing has worked for years and yet our people still don't know why, they are still being led by the nose by the BBC, come the next election the people will be whipped into a frenzy (Olympic style) into voting for the red team/blue team in the hope of a better result, it really is a story you couldn't make up.

I wonder if they will ever discover what's in store for them.

Bill

Anonymous said...

Continued from 11:51 AM

And there's more....

I've lived most of my long-ish life in the last century (20th.) for all of that time public utterances to the plebs by the media of the day were highly fabricated, massaged one might say, even censored or worse, omitted.

If you didn't read or hear about it, it never happened.

Even during my time, the media as it now known grew by leaps and bounds, even before I was born the media was well established in the form of newspapers, periodicals, magazines etc. Then, early in my life these media outlets were augmented with a giant leap for mankind in the form of television.

Last but not least toward the end of the 20th century yet another marvel of science was added to the elites armoury, yes, I am of course referring to the Internet.

Up and till the arrival of the internet, the elites had full command and control over the utterances to the human herd as there was no alternative to the elite's version of events, they could tell the herd black was white and often did, knowing full well that they could do so with impunity.

It was the same with government, they could pronounce whatever they wished to the masses and do so unchallenged, for the elite controlled media would support them. Is it any surprise the elite programme of world government could proceed proceed unhindered and unchallenged? The mind boggles when one thinks of what could have been fabricated and concocted by the elites for the dumb herd's consumption.

Even I came to realise in later life that events unfolded by sleight of hand, events that were never made public, or at least never brought to the attention of the ordinary man in the street. EG. the Common Market's journey to the EU or the ramping up of immigration never appeared in any government election manifesto. I cannot recall at any time an incumbent government rescinding any previous opposition government's legislation.

Anonymous said...

continued from 7 : 36 PM

Then there was the education system. From the age of five we presented ourselves to the system as blank slates to be filled in with whatever conventional establishment wisdom of the day required. I clearly recall being regaled how superior we, the British were to all others and what a civilising influence we were throughout the world. We even had an Empire Day pageant, dressing up with cocoa smalmed bodies in moth eaten tiger skins, spear an'all.

The transition from steam radio to infant television was indeed a giant leap for mankind. Any resemblance of infant British television’s ethos and values of those days compared with today can be illustrated by pointing out the newscasters of the day were attired in evening dress. I took all this for granted, strangely, my life has coincided alongside the development and evolution of television, and also strangely, has also coincided with her Majesty Queen Elizabeth's sixty year reign.

I witnessed Britain's version of the '60s counter culture as participated by the BBC, needless to say at the time I had no idea what it was all about. I witnessed the demise of Britain's traditional ruling class, I also witnessed the dying embers of a once great Britain, for by the end of the 1950s the Britain I had known was no more. Perhaps most of all, I have witnessed television's establishment’s assault on what Britain was all about and what Britain has become. Obviously this and much more, is too much to record in comment here, notwithstanding my enthusiasm and my ability to do so.

The potential for brainwashing and misleading the viewer for the past 60 years knows no bounds, with a screen in every home, television ensured that in the wrong hands, Orwell's 1984 was assured.

Bill

CS said...

Harry,

reverting for a moment to the question of occult symbolism:

Symbols may be used with or without occult meaning and unless one knows that an occult meaning is intended, one cannot really infer too much.

Mankind is the symbol using animal: words, letters, numbers, flags, regimental mascots and standards, family crests and corporate logos, we use symbols all the time. Mainly, I suspect, people use symbols for fun, not necessarily to convey anything deep or significant.

Even I have a corporate logo, a bird, which had symbolic meaning for the ancient Greeks, the ancient Egyptians the Celts and Masons.

Nevertheless, to me it is just something to fill a spot on a Web page: it is just a bird.

CS said...

Bill,

The NWO is surely just a sanitized term for global empire.

Britain was the first to seek global hegemony, but handed the white man's burden to the US following World War 1, which Britain survived only with US aid.

During the interwar years, the US hesitated to pursue the dream of global power, but the Russians filled the power vacuum as they sought to precipitate a global Communist Revolution.

After the fall of the Soviet Union, the US NeoCons launched America's bid for global dominance, but now China is moving into position to make a possible challenge.

Meantime there's the EU, the empire that expands through voluntary assimilation. Suffering a bit of trouble now but still a bigger economy and population than the US.

One thing these movements have in common is a fear of nationalism, which is the ultimate enemy of imperialism. Hence the consistent, across-the-board effort by the US and its allies, the EU, the Soviets in their day, and China to destroy the nation state and crush all feelings of local identity whether racial, cultural or religious. Hence the British Brainwashing Corporation, the Gruniard and all the rest.

See: The New World Order: What Is It? Who Wants It?

Revolution Harry said...

Maybe the 'phoenix rising from the flames' in the closing ceremony had no intended occult symbolism. Maybe it just represented...what exactly? Maybe the floodlights of the Olympic stadium being in the form of a triangle (pyramid) with an illuminate capstone was just happenstance. Perhaps that the fact they were officially turned on in a 'ceremony' on the winter solstice was also just a happy coincidence. It's the accumulation of the symbolism that tells you it has some significance. At least to them.

Revolution Harry said...

Bill, it's rather late so I reply to your comment tomorrow if that's ok.

CS said...

Harry,

The thing about the Phoenix is it's a very old and hackneyed symbol, so it's use in the Olympics closing ceremony seems natural enough to me.

We see the spirit of the Olympic movement rising, Phoenix-like, from the ashes of the dying flame of the games just ended, to carry to movement forward to Sochi!

That's how I understand it, anyhow. But perhaps there's more to it than that, but if so, the question is what?

In fact, the use of occult symbolism, numbers like 9/11, 7/7 or 666 (where the Nasdaq bottomed in 2008), may simply be intended to distract from the obvious: namely, that the plutocrats are robbing us blind, exporting our jobs and filling our children's minds with trash so they can rule undisturbed by questions from the plebs, bemused by strange symbols borrowed from the Ancient World.

CS said...

Which is not to say that examining the symbolism associated with events and people is not fascinating. Indeed it is.

That, as you have pointed out, Breugel's Tower of Babel is undoubtedly the model for Europe's Parliament is fascinating. But I question how much is to be read into it.

An architect commissioned to design a public building will naturally consider a form that is symbolic of function. The Architects of the EU Parliament claim that their design was inspired by the form of the Roman Amphitheatre. But they would have to say something like that, would n't they. Yet the Tower of Babel would have been a much more natural source of inspiration.

And the EU Commission, or whoever approved the design, may have liked the symbolism. The Parliament has no power and its members can talk double Dutch for all that the unelected Commissioners who run the EU care.

So it is my contention that, notwithstanding the symbolism associated with their works or actions, few politicians are motivated by anything other than the lust for power and the satisfactions that the holding of power provide.

Despite protestations of religious faith, few politicians are in fact motivated by a belief in, say, Jesus' teachings in the Sermon on the Mount. Likewise, I doubt whether those who have been seen to make the Devil's Horns salute give a damn about the Devil.

Anonymous said...

Harry. I posted this over at MR today, I thought it worth repeating here.

Olympic Games - Postscript.

Oh the irony, oh the delicious gob smacking irony of it. The political chattering classes are beside themselves this morning, every newspaper front page is awash with images of the stupendous crowds gathered in London celebrating the British feel good factor post Olympics.

The political class has struck the mother-lode of all mother-lodes, the search for the holy grail of the elusive problem of what it means to be British has unexpected been revealed, they can’t believe it!

The non-stop whipped up euphoria induced media campaign throughout the games has been an awesome success, the crowds are ecstatic with flag waving patriotism, the spirit of the games has healed our nation the politicos hail. All is not lost.

Eh! hang on minute, isn’t there something not quite right about those crowd images?

The faces in the huge crowds are hideously white!

British politics is in free-fall, the whole system is broke and there’s nowhere to run for the British people.

How are they to square the circle?

Interesting times.

Harry, have you been over to MR lately? MR seems to have lost its mo-jo, strange!

Bill

Revolution Harry said...

Hi Bill,

Thanks for your input. As I intimated in the post, all of us commenting on the "NWO' have to be very cautious of exactly what we're saying so as to be wary of inadvertently furthering the very agenda we think we're resisting. I try and frame my posts extremely carefully in order to avoid this very thing. I'm not 'one of them' but even if I was I can't see how anything I've written could possibly help their cause. For one thing being overtly anti-immigration and multiculturalism is largely taboo even amongst those involved in the 'truth movement'. I'm careful how express my views on these things but all the same I don't hold anything back.

Sadly my experiences with those aware of the NWO is slightly more negative than yours. Even with the many who are aware, they've fallen into what seems to be a carefully prepared trap that is the New Age/theosophic 'solution' which does what I mentioned above. That is it actually serves to further the very agenda they think hay are fighting. The many followers of David Icke, Ian R Crane and David Wilcock being good examples.

The agenda was in existence long before Blair. George Bush's 'New World Order' speech in 1990 being just one incident in the many incremental steps that have bought us to where we are today. That said there' little doubt that the agenda 'was 'ramped up' when Blair came to power.

I tried to unravel some of the issues surrounding mass immigration in my 'Tower of Babel' post but I feel I didn't really do it justice. There's an incredible degree of psychological manipulation at work. Of course this hasn't worked on everyone so the task is to demonise and sideline those who dissent. A task that's proved to be all too successful. Just one hour on primetime TV would burst that bubble but it would never be allowed to happen. Instead the agenda is constantly reinforced through TV (soaps especially), film, the press and popular entertainment.

I may have stumbled upon another piece of the puzzle. One that, however incredible it may seem, could well shine a light on what it is that's taking place. It'll be a while before I feel confident enough to post about this but if you email me I'll give you a broad outline.

Cheers,

Harry.

Revolution Harry said...

Bill,

I do occasionally have a look at MR and you're right it's bubble has burst. Perhaps with my discovery of so much controlled opposition within the 'truth movement' I've become too cynical but I long ago became suspicious of MR. It seemed like a 'holding pen' of sorts. All talk and absolutely no action besides my other suspicions.

Revolution Harry said...

CS, I'm in no position to make a definitive statement on these things. I'm also fairly keen to avoid rushing to judgement. That said the evidence does accumulate to the extent that a pattern, or agenda, emerges. One of the most telling images for me was Brown and Bush exchanging an overtly masonic handshake.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-WV5R7d5zXZM/TgIt397YcJI/AAAAAAAAAWo/z5JnpYRj3fI/s320/Brown+Bush+masons.jpeg

I could post literally scores of similar shots featuring the likes of Obama, Ron Paul and even the Pope. Both Bush's have long been outed as members of Skull and Bones. Without going into great detail it should be obvious that the secret society networks have a crucial role to play in the power structure and how it operates. Not only the mason's but the various 'orders' such as the Knights of Malta. To underestimate the importance of these roles is to miss a significant aspect of how the globalist agenda is being pursued. Further investigation can't fail to reveal the overtly 'occult' nature of these societies.

Of course some judgement is required. We have to ask ourselves does the EU parliament building really look anything like a Roman amphitheatre or does it indeed look like an unfinished tower. I know what I think it looks like. When the EU poster depicting the Tower of Babel is also taken into consideration the only conclusion I can reach is that there's a thinly veiled agenda with occult overtones being pursued.

CS said...

"secret society networks have a crucial role to play in the power structure and how it operates."

Harry, I don't doubt that secret societies can be influential. Why else, would J F Kennedy have denounced them -- a speech that may have been a factor in determining his own untimely death.

My point, though, is that secret societies are mainly influential in the the way people seek to fulfill their basic ambitions -- for girls, guns and gold, as C.S. Lewis neatly put it -- but that they do not set the agenda.

Thus I would guess that the likes of the Bush's would screw their masonic friends without hesitation if it advanced their personal ambitions.

Anonymous said...

21818llofxiHi Harry.

Thanks for taking time out to share your views, it really is appreciated. As I've said before, do not feel obliged to comment as I know how time consuming it all can be.

It is most confusing when trying to piece this jig-saw together. It's my overall weakness on the New Age Truth component of this conspiracy that truly limits my horizons. It's that damned leap across the chasm of incredulity that does for me.

Have you noticed when viewing the plethora of Truth videos out there that there is often a point in the narrative where there is a sudden swerve of direction. It happens too many times to be a coincidence. The scenario story begins and proceeds with the usual revelations of the matrix we are experiencing, inter mingled with the usual anti New World Order stuff, and then, suddenly, (near the end) the whole narrative changes direction and the unmistakeable whiff of tell-tale New Age rhetoric appears. To me the change is so noticeable it jolts me out of my lethargy. It starts with something like, 'it needn't be this way.....' and then leads you gently by the hand into their New Age Utopian agenda.

Many Truth videos I start to watch lack conviction and I give up, others rely heavily on the bible for their narrative so I have to give up again. Try as I might to stay with plot I invariably give up.

Icke is an enigma. As you say he produces some believable stuff but then he goes on about vibrational base constructs or some such. Never mentions mass non-white immigration into white territories.

I must have been in my late 40's early 50's when I idly asked myself the question how do I know what I am seeing before me and (maybe also sensing) is true? The question didn't bother me, I didn't dwell on it, it was just that sometimes I had vibes that hinted that what I was seeing might not be what I thought it was. It's never gone beyond that.

Another thing that has puzzled me about this topic being discussed here is, where does this conspiratorial intelligence come from? What is being enacted and appearing before our eyes defies (to me) rational explanation. The humankind's intelligence is at its evolutionary peak but even so I could easily be persuaded the intelligence responsible for the sheer genius and cunningness involved maybe not of this mortal coil. The deep seated knowledge being displayed with regard to the human behavioural response to any given circumstance is awesome.

Is it the same intelligence that is sending highly sophisticated space-pods, millions of miles into space? I understand a space vehicle which was launched decades ago (see Wiki Voyager One.) has travelled (and is continuing to travel) to the boundaries and beyond of our solar system. I only have to watch the latest efforts of the 'Curiosity' mission to the planet Mars and marvel at the intelligence that got it there.

The trouble is of course that once you dip your toe in the waters of the unknown one is liable to accusations of all kinds. Is it best to keep quiet and thought a fool or should one open one's mouth and prove it?

Of course at the most basic level, the age old question of Man has not been satisfactorily answered, namely why are we here? For what purpose? Modernity has enabled liberal Man to persuade himself that he too can be God, and those who are orchestrating modern events at the very top feel that their moment has come.

The great unknown is a great leveller, no-one has a monopoly on truth, one man's guess is as good as another. Hey, hang on, isn't that one of the central planks of liberalism? (Relativism) Ah well! back to the drawing board.

Incidentally, today there is an article over at the much respected Counter Current website focussing on Alex Jones, actually the author gives him the thumbs up! This is an unexpected departure from the usual excellent fare at CC and some of you may find it more than a little interesting.

http://www.counter-currents.com/2012/09/phases-of-resistance-part-1/

Bill

Revolution Harry said...

CS, it seems we've found the point at which we differ, which is fine. From everything I've read and understood there is much more to the assorted 'secret societies' than the attainment of 'girls, guns and gold'. At least at the higher levels. Those worldly prizes might serve to keep the 'lesser brethren' in check.

Perhaps the 'illustrious' freemason Manley P. Hall gave us the keenest insight into the Luciferian plan to subjugate the world, in his book 'Lectures on Ancient Philosophy' (published by the Philosophical Research Society of Los Angeles in 1970).

“The New Atlantis [which he considered to be America] sets forth an ideal government of the earth. It foretells that day when in the midst of men there shall rise up a vast institution composed of the philosophic elect — an order of illumined men banded together for the purpose of investigating the laws of life and the mysteries of the universe … The age of boundaries is closing, and we are approaching a nobler era when nations shall be no more; when the lines of race and caste shall be wiped out; when the whole earth shall be under one order, one government, one administrative body."

Revolution Harry said...

Bill, I too used to be discouraged by material that was overtly 'Christian'. I persevered for research purposes initially but eventually this was replaced by an intellectual curiosity. I'm glad I persisted because I feel I've learnt more through these channels than any other. My interest these days is far more than merely intellectual. As I said it's my feeling that I've stumbled upon something that begins to make sense of why mass immigration into only 'white' nations. Hopefully I'll be able to write about it soon, though I'm not sure how well you or others will receive it.

CS said...

Harry,

Manley P. Hall's Luciferian plan seems to be along the same lines as that spelled out by the Grand Inquisitor in Dostoevsky's The Brothers Kamarazov.

It's interesting, but I still think power, money and physical self-gratification are the primary drivers of human action even at the highest level.

But then I agree there's plenty of room to differ, without disagreeing.

Cheers.

Anonymous said...

Harry

The sandbag they're beating over our heads with is that white's have shown themselves historically all things wicked. Same old, same old.

In essence, whites are seen to be the roadblock to to the progress of mankind. Hence obliteration by being submerged into a sea of colour.

I take it from what you've hinted you don't buy into this conventional wisdom.

Anonymous said...

Sorry forgot sign off @9:22 AM above.

Bill

Revolution Harry said...

No Bill. I think if you've read my Tower of Babel article you'll see that I don't. Not by a long way.

Zoompad said...

I have been thinking about how I was taken in by the UK Column/Brian Gerrish snowball. I call myself a Christian, but Jesus did warn his friends not to hero worship other people as if they could do no wrong.

I remember an ex policeman at a Brian Gerrish conference in Stoke (not the one I shouted at John Hemming at, the one before that) telling us to deliberatly break the law, he actually told us to, and at the time I just thought, this is wrong, and two wrongs don't make a right, but I didn't get up and challenge him, as I should have done, no, I just sat there passivly, like a coward. I feel ashamed of that now, because I knew what he was saying was wrong and I just sat there.

Brian Gerrish should also have challenged him for what he was saying, Brian Gerrish talks about LAWFUL rebellion, well, deliberatly breaking the law for the sake of it is not lawful rebellion, it's unlawful rebellion then, isn't it?

I went through all that seven years of persecution in the secret family courts, and I would have broken illegal gagging orders if I had had to, because no court or judge has the right to slap a gagging order on someone who has been institutionally abused, just to shut them up to stop them getting justice, but as it turned out I didn't have to do that, as no gagging order was ever made in my case. If there would have been, I would have had to break them, and take the consequences upon my own shoulders. I wasn't prepared to be bound by an unjust law, and I prayed about this, I know how Jesus must have felt when he was in the Garden of Gethsemene, begging God to take the cup away that he didn't want to drink, because I was praying about the same bitter cup, but in my case I didnt have to drink it as God took it away! Hope people will understand what I am saying, and not misinterpret it.

Zoompad said...

I was repeatedly mocked and called a nutter for my simple faith in God, and I am not ashamed to say that the more I was attacked the more I clung to my God, like a liferaft. Because the way I see it, I don't know this and I don't know that, I feel like a very small fish in a huge ocean, and there are sharks about, people who deliberatly prey on other people, who don't care if they smash someone else to bits as long as they get what they want. Jesus said people shouldn't be like that, repeatedly he said it, over and over, telling people to be kind and love one another. Its not a very loving thing to do to deliberatly incite other people to become outlaws, just to use them to overthrow people in authority, I think that is leading people away from the narrow path and onto the broad highway.

The UK Column had a picture of David Cameron in the vegetable patch, as a running feature, and encourages the readers to hate that one man, and thats wrong as well. It wouldn't be wrong for the UK Column to be doing a proper investigation of who David Cameron is, and his family background (there are skeletons in his closet, which David Cameron himself might be unaware of) but just to encourage people (particulary very hurt and fragile people who have been through the mincing machine) to just hurl stones at the man, thats not right! I am ashamed to say that I have thrown my share of stones (not literally!!) and have made some pretty nasty comments about that one man, and at others who have been set up on the coconut shy.

If there's any Towers of Babel being built we all individually have a duty to make sure that we don't contribute to the building of it. Teaching other people to hate authority so that you can sieze the authority is not right, and I think that is what has been happening.

I have been reading some old books off the Gutenberg site, I suffer from depression and panic attacks, and find some of the old childrens literature soothing when its hard to read other things, with the lovely pen and ink drawings that they were illustrated with. I found a big pile of childrens periodicals, and it made me think, the children of today are being taught so many negative and selfish things, but the children of the past, they were taught to be brave, unselfish and good. If there's any rebellion to be made I think it has to be against the bad spirit that is trying to elbow any good inclination out of the way and stamp on it. I think everyone on the planet is in their own personal spiritual battle, as well as a universal struggle of good v evil.

BgB71 said...

HI Harry,
Instead of wasting valuable time exposing the so called leaders of the truth movement here, why not use your energy and talent to expose such false teachers like Joel Osteen, Kenneth Copeland, Creflo Dollar, etc etc?
Surely these folk are causing more damage to Christ's message, not to mention body(church), than a 100 Ian R Cranes and David Ickes put together?

Anonymous said...

Thinking of how confusing all this is I started to draw up a list of words/terms that permeate and infiltrate the narrative of the New World Order. This is part of a wider lexicon that I have taken on board since starting out on my quest, however I must point out this list mainly reflects the political aspect of the New World Order thereby leaving the spiritual lexicon to the experts on this blog.

I place this list in no particular order and offer it to you to add what must be hundreds more. I'm no scholar and must admit that the journey so far has been most enlightening.

I include.

Political correctness Immigration Modernity Post-modernism Marxism Frankfurt School

Cultural Marxism Fascism Anti-fascism New World Order Globalism United Nations

Neoliberalism Fordism Post Fordism Internet Theosophy Sophistry Gnosticism Holocaust

Nietzsche Plato Socrates Oligarchs Conservatism Socialism Catholicism Christianity

Liberalism NGO's Think Tanks Deindustrialisation Central Banks Fed EU Nationalism

Financialisation Tolerance Non discrimination Relativism Welfare State Homosexuality

Victim hood Feminism Affirmative Action Racism Nazism Bigotry Totalitarianism Freedom

Aristotle Hiedigger Pornography Consumerism Hitler Third Way Communitarianism

Community Islam Fabianism Equality Corporatism Transnationalism MSM Lib/Lab/Con

trick Regime change Bread and Circuses Democracy .... etc.etc.etc.


Is it any wonder our people turn to the BBC? Strictly Come Dancing, Coronation Street, daytime sofa TV et al.

Just a bit of fun

Bill

Revolution Harry said...

BgB71,

I suspect both groups are doing damage in their own particular ways. The people you mention are all Americans that I have little or no knowledge of and as such don't feel qualified to commentate on. My difficulty in writing about matters relating to Christ's message is that I feel I still have a lot to learn and understand. I just don't feel able to write authoritatively on the subject.

BgB71 said...

Fair dues Harry but i see the truth movement, like the prosperity preachers, as a global entity. I feel that some of the folk in the truth movement can make people aware despite dodgy 'New Age' beliefs. Many churches would struggle to tell such revelations. We should chew the meat and spit out the fat so to speak.

Anonymous said...

My train of thoughts for this comment has been prompted by regularly scrolling down the comment threads at the online Telegraph comment section.

I find the comment section of online blogs is a good way of gauging the mood of the people, a good way of sensing which way the political wind is blowing, both here in Britain and also America. It interesting to compare the two nations.

I have for a long time considered the commenter’s at the Telegraph and the Guardian to represent the more representatively aware or informed of our masses and rate them numerically at no more than 2% of the population at most.

So what does that tell me?

Most posters commenting here have their own story as to how they have ended up here (and probably elsewhere) to vent their need of having some input into the conversation to what they (vaguely or starkly) perceive as the most critical plight of our civilisation. Welcome to the 2%.

I have reached the stage where I have absorbed so much information in regard to this conversation I now feel overwhelmed by it all, it could be said I am suffering from the effects of information overload or being diagnosed as blogger fatigued. It is clear that blogger fatigue is rife among the comment threads at such as the Telegraph, which incidentally, I do not participate myself.

As I write, the November 2012 presidential election is in full spate and is getting its generous share of reporting in the threads, the commenter's are taking full advantage and airing their views. What is surprising (but for me not so) is the amount of confidence the commenter is investing in the Western democratic political system. The consensus idea of course is that by voting the people believe they can influence the outcome of events. I do not subscribe to this optimistic view and haven't done so for many a year. To me, the so called democratic electoral system is an open scam and probably been that way since its inception, certainly during the span of my life time.

Contd. Bill

Anonymous said...

Continued
rom 3.34 PM Sept.18. 2012

Returning to my condition of information overload, I have found myself lately taking a few steps back from the scene of the conversation (as it were) to step back and try to get an overview of what I have gleaned so far. This is not so easy as it sounds for no other reason than the conflicting twists and turns of the debate itself are daunting, to get everything into focus and make sense of it all is not at all easy, and as demonstrated on this blog, lots of poster's here feel the same.

All I can do (and have always tried to do so) is tell it as I see it. For my part it was around 2005/6 when I began to suspect all was not as it seemed. You might say I was late arriving at the party. It is not my intention to burden the reader with the telling of my journey to awareness as I cannot do it justice here, suffice to say, from that moment on, I devoted (far too much) time searching online for answers as to what was going on.

The term 'rabbit hole' is sometimes used to describe the intricasies and machinations of the narrative of the New World Order, personally I find it a suitably apt expression, especially when referring to the depth of the rabbit hole and the subterranean twists and turns.

Another term being much used is this discussion is the expression of the 'Genie has been let out of the bottle,' which is also analogous to what has happened in our society. There is no doubt in my mind that people feel there (has been and is continuing) unforetold rapid change in such a short time, the feeling of things will never go back again is palpable. This perceived observation demonstrates a people's nation in disarray, sleepwalking directionless into a menacing unknown future.
Alas, this is my emerging big picture so far, Western civilisation is (especially Britain (England) and America) is in turmoil and it's getting worse by the day. Yes, the Genie is truly out of the bottle and plainly will not be put back again. As I've noted before, Britain's political system is broke, the existing arrangement is incapable of dealing with the intended transition to a new future. The architects of change appear to be in a hurry (and there's the rub). Do they know what they're doing or is it all intended, furthermore, what is the time-scale?

It must be glaringly obvious I have no idea what to suggest in the way of solutions, Somewhere Harry called for welcomed suggestions that would in some way see a way out of this predicament. Even if beneficial suggestions were put forward I doubt very much if governments would adopt and implement them for they are not on our side as should be evident for all to see. The political system is against us, the only way I think would have any impact is a bottom up peaceful withdrawal from the system. The system would collapse within a week at great cost.

As things are, all that can be done is wait and watch events unfold, for there is nothing on the horizon to suggest otherwise. Are we the first humans in history to have a ringside seat at our own civilisational demise?

Bill

Anonymous said...

Harry, Thanks for a brilliant,thorough and erudite article. I think the Lord has truly opened your eyes, we have both come a long way since posting on the UK Column. I faced the wrath of David Icke and his fans when for suggesting his Theosophic, anti christian new age agenda riding piggy back with him. Perhaps i see the end times as being closer to us than you do as we all witness the great falling away on a daily basis and evil being good and good called evil,perhaps satan has been released from the pit for his "little season" to take charge of the last Babylon and the restrainer has been removed which may explain the acceleration of the falling away, perhaps the first few seals, have already been opened and the first few trumpets already sounded. We don't know the exact day of hour of the Lord's return but we have been given signs that the end may be approaching. As you say the important thing is to keep watching, praying and to keep oil in our lamps so when he comes it won't be as thief in the night. Revelations 17:17 says
"For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled"
As you have observed to fight the satanic NWO is not only pointless but may be going against the will of God.If God is allowing Satan to make his last stand for God's glory and for humanity to make a choice to overcome the world or to drink the wine of Babylon for a season, who are we to argue with that?
I agree with you that we should fight this evil, not by opposing it but by the Gospel,prayer,truth and faith.
I think it probable that most of the elite are demon possessed as are many popular media figures, this is spiritual battle not one of the flesh.
God Bless
Andrew

Anonymous said...

Hi, Bill you wrote "The humankind's intelligence is at its evolutionary peak but...."
I don't know if this was a slip of the tongue or that you do believe in the philosophy of evolution (That a belief in is crucial for Godless new age world religion) that has been drummed into us from birth (and the BBC constantly) Joseph Goebbels said "If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it"
I won't go into all the logical arguments and suppressed evidences against evolution here as the people over at creation ministries and answers in genesis have thousands of articles already. It saddens me however that that the Chruch has already compromised with this philosophy with "theistic evolution" This pagan belief goes back far earlier than Darwin (who was infuenced by his Grandfather) to pagan Egyptian mythology.
I know it sounds crazy as now this philosophy to describe the origins of mam without God is wrongly accepted as fact and has been dressed up by so-called science and reason to not resemble it's pagan past. But it remains an unproven assumption and no mechanism has ever been observed that can change molecules into men or that molecules can create themselves out of nothing.Evolution can naturally lend itself to the new age concept of cosmic and spiritual evolution, reversing the truth of the fall of man and inbred sin and offers a basis for the marriage of science (so-called) and new age religion

Alice Bailey believed that “for the first time” mankind is “intelligently participating and cooperating” in the entire evolutionary process" Ian Crane wrote "and we have a unique opportunity to participate in the unfolding of what is undoubtedly going to be one of the most significant events in our evolutionary process" (Homo Luminous) He did a talk entitled "The New World Order and the Evolution of Consciousness" You can see he is peddling the same BS as Alice Bailey and the Lucis Trust, using "evolution" as a foundation for his mysticism.

The belief in evolution is one of the greatest stumbling blocks to truth and in my opinion one of the greatest frauds hoisted upon mankind of all time.
They were determined to keep creation out of classrooms and to teach children this philosophy as a fact. I think this qualifies as one of the deceptions to even fool the elect if that were possible.
Andrew.

Revolution Harry said...

Thanks Andrew. I've done my very best to follow the truth wherever it leads. I haven't finished yet.

There seems little doubt to me that at its heart what we are facing is a spiritual battle and that it seems likely that this battle is drawing to a conclusion. I remember a quote from David Spangler's book, Reflections on the Christ. On page 45 he writes:

"Lucifer comes to give to us the final gift of wholeness. If we accept it then he is free and we are free. This is the Luciferic initiation. It is one that many people now, and in the days ahead, will be facing, for it is an initiation in the New Age."

Lucifer (Satan - the adversary) or Jesus seems to be the choice on offer. I've made mine.

Anonymous said...

Andrew. Ex poster at UK Column.

"As you have observed to fight the satanic NWO is not only pointless but may be going against the will of God.If God is allowing Satan to make his last stand for God's glory and for humanity to make a choice to overcome the world or to drink the wine of Babylon for a season, who are we to argue with that?"

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18:3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.
18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, COME OUT of her, MY people, that ye take not part in her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues (punishment).

James:
1:22 But be ye DOERS of the Word, and NOT hearers only, BEING DECEIVED BY YOUR OWN "SELVES".
1:23 For if any be a hearer of the Word, and NOT a DOER, he is like unto a man beholding his natural face in a glass (mirror):


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Anonymous said...

PM, I follow Jesus not the unregenerate unrepentant, non born again, false prophet Muad'Dib. I am very well aquainted with the verses you quote infact i hope if i am alive when Babylon is Judged i hope i will be rejoicing and not lamenting.
http://christiansojourner.wordpress.com/2012/09/20/would-we-cry-alleluia-and-rejoice-with-heaven-or-lament-when-babylon-is-judged/
Did Jesus demand his "rights" from his Roman oppressors? and preach a social or politcal Gospel? Did Jesus try to fix this fallen world by social action and demonstrating?
"Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence" John 18:36
"James:
1:22 But be ye DOERS of the Word, and NOT hearers only, BEING DECEIVED BY YOUR OWN "SELVES".
1:23 For if any be a hearer of the Word, and NOT a DOER, he is like unto a man beholding his natural face in a glass (mirror)"
I fully agree, do what Jesus says not Muad' Dib and dominionism was never part of the word and unbiblical.
We have been called out of the world not to fight for it.
"Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord" ROM 12:9
Andrew.


Anonymous said...

"Did Jesus demand his "rights" from his Roman oppressors? and preach a social or politcal Gospel? Did Jesus try to fix this fallen world by social action and demonstrating?"

His message was about the spiritual matters (The Resurrection for example; which He knew He would have to go through the crucifixion to show us the Resurrection) and all so to keep Gods Law and Commandments. WE have had two thousands years to learn about the Spiritual lessons and the Law, but look where we are today.

5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy The Law, or the Prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill.
5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no way pass from The Law, till all be fulfilled.
5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least COMMANDments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the Kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach [them], the same shall be called great in the Kingdom of heaven.
5:20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall EXCEED [the righteousness] of the lawyers and politicians (who were also priests because the church and the state were one at that time), ye shall in NO case enter into the Kingdom of heaven.


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ROM 12:9
12:9 [Let] love be without dissimulation. Abhor that which is evil; cleave to that which is good.

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Anonymous said...

Oh, and if you remember Jesus overthrew the moneylenders tables before. They were breaking Gods Law and Commandments, no politics because politics is all lies, bread and circuses.

Anonymous said...

"would-we-cry-alleluia"

Some will, AlleluJAH

That's the spelling.

Andrew said...

"Some will , AlleluJAH" My spelling comes from the KJV in Revelations.Why quote me so much scripture that is irrelevant to your promotion of Muad'Dib and his worldy wisdom but rather denounces him as false teacher? You seem on the defensive as you can't seem to communicate on the level. Why are you being inconsistent? Your link showed a political and social agenda worldview from the flesh, not a born again spiritural one. Reclaim the UK from satan? what a joke. God will that in his own time. Why change your story, I know you and you have been outed. You have not answered one point in plain English from any logical consistency. Are you saved? have you repented of your sins, are you born again? Are you a pilgrim and sojouner in this fallen world or trying to reform it? I will know you by fruit and sorry my friend but your fruit stinks. You are no Christian. Repent and humble yourself, you can still be saved and we can each other brethren. All i ask is you Follow the Lord, not me and not Muad'Dib.
I won't waste any more time with you unless you can come to your senses, forget your childish fantasies from Muad'Dib's Star Wars nonsence and stop spreading the doctrines of demons.
No doubt you will post more scripture you don't understand as you do not have the holy spirit to guide you and must have the last word. Your welcome to it.
I pray that that God gives you wisdom and has not sent you strong delusion but his will be done not mine.
Your reaction to me tells me you are not of the faith but from the enemey.
If you were on the level you would not have reacted this way to simple Bible truth but you preach a different Gospel from your master Muad'Dib don't you?
Jesus warned us against your sort who have perverted the Holy Bible. I knew who you were from your first reply.

Anonymous said...

"Some will , AlleluJAH" My spelling comes from the KJV in Revelations"
The word "Alleluia" or "Hallelujah" (from Hebrew הללו יה), which literally means "Praise ye Yah" or "Praise Jah, you people", is used in different ways in Christian ...

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Remember Jesus overthrew the moneylenders tables. They were breaking Gods Law and Commandments, no politics because politics is all lies, bread and circuses.

Debt forgiveness.
"Our Father in heaven,
hallowed be your name.
Your kingdom come,
your will be done,
on earth as it is in heaven.
Give us this day our daily bread,
and forgive us our debts,
as we also have forgiven our debtors.
And lead us not into temptation,
but deliver us from evil."

5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy The Law, or the Prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill.
5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no way pass from The Law, till all be fulfilled.
5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least COMMANDments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the Kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach [them], the same shall be called great in the Kingdom of heaven.
5:20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall EXCEED [the righteousness] of the lawyers and politicians (who were also priests because the church and the state were one at that time), ye shall in NO case enter into the Kingdom of heaven.

Mon05Nov - PARLIAMENT - Cancel All Debt with Muad'Dib


REDISTRIBUTE THE LAND. CANCEL ALL DEBT

http://www.911forum.org.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=21513

Zoompad said...

I think a lot of people are having to come to terms with stuff they were taught as children. This Jimmy Savile business, for example, I remember as a girl that boys were taught to "sow your wild oats" but girls were taught that only "slags" went with a man before they were married. Also, boys were not condemned for losing their virginity to a prostitute.

Hidden in all that was the abuse of children, and I think now that the reason us care home kids were libelled as "bad uns" was to gloss over the way we were abused, because we were seen as rubbish. I think that the elite who were involved in the abuse encouraged other people to visualise us as dregs of society, and it worked.

I am also a Christian, and a precious thing the Lord has given me is what that little chimney sweeping boy in the Water Babies was craving for, he wanted to be clean, and not besmirched any more, and I felt most of my life that I was a dirty slag, not fit for any human company, and I remember when I was 16 wanting to go to Sunday School like my younger sister but feeling too corrupted, because that is what child abuse makes you feel. I became a Christian in 1984 and was overjoyed to realise that you could actually talk to God, which a lady told me that you actually could do. But I have struggled to understand that God really loves me, because of all the massive struggle and the cover up of the abuse. Also I was so angry at times that I wanted God to kill some people and when God didnt do as I wanted him to I thought maybe God didnt love me and loved child abusers. When you are really hurting a lot you dont always pray for the right things, because you are grieving, and I didnt. God sees everything and he saw the child abusers and murderers when they were little babies, so maybe he is giving them a chance? But it hurts a lot, it is like walking on knives, like in The Little Mermaid. Anyway, if God would have thunderbolted and lightninged the ones I wanted him to the wrong ones would have been smited, because I'm not God so I only see a bit of the stuff that happened.

Zoompad said...

My idea of nuns was like the ones in the Sound of Music, I thought nuns were like angels. I didnt have any religious background so had never tasted nun cruelty or anything like that. I only found out about spiritual abuse when I was grown up. I didnt realise that Pindown had anything to do with the Church at that time either. It was a horrible shock to find it all out.

Anonymous said...

Andrew its not worth being fooled by man-made religions Christianity/Islam/Judaism and much safer to follow the True teaching of Christ.

Matthew
7:1 Judge NOT, that ye be not judged.
7:2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

Don't forget these either - we must help each other - not slate each other.

Malachi
4:4 Remember ye and return to The Law of Moses My servant, which I commanded unto him in Horeb for all Israel, [with] the Statutes and Judgments.
4:5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the Prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful Day of the "I AM" (Sura 43:61):
4:6 And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse. - NOW.

Psalms
68:4 Sing unto God, sing praises to His name: extol Him that rideth upon the heavens by His name JAH, and rejoice before Him.

Otherwise what is your benefit/motive for/from discrediting Muad'Dib??? Someone who has absolutely exposed to traitorous politicians for what they really are, exactly as was done 2000 years ago. Not only has he exposed the politicians but the banksters as well. www.jforjustice.net/banksters exactly as was done 2000 years ago - think money changers. Or does discrediting Muad'Did make money changes for you???

Daniel said...

As long as words like Illuminati, Masonic, Satanic, etc are used for describing an all-encompassing force that shapes all worldly happenings throughout time and space, there will be no room for credibility. Every individual on the web clarifying some global issues with these words is guilty of that, confirming their lack of creativity by copying mainstream dogma of 'alternative' thoughts.
It is mainly this phenomenon that discredits every time research for truth. Certain 9/11 movements were really victim of this technique (from the inside).

If you mention The Protocols of Zion, automatically you are walking a thin line. What is mentioned in the Protocols could be applied since a few centuries, especially in France (maybe with roots in Italy). One can replace Jews by Catholic Jesuits or any elite that played a significant role during a certain period in a particular place. The protocols is an end-product that grew organically from previous literature from various sources and thus improved in time with new political developments. It surely sounds good in present times but this is also the case with Machiavelli's analyse of power. In fact, it demonstrates more the moral attitude of a power-hungry elite and their techniques throughout mankind's history.
Within this context it could be used to analyse elitarian misbehaviour where the end justifies the means but not necessarily to describe a 'unique identity' behind an elite in power games.

Daniel said...

A returning thought in the comments are referring to Christ's message, blaming others for being satanist. Now, tell me what is true Christianity and I guarantee you at least 1000 different answers and a blog that will continue to define it for the next millennium.
Personally I go along with gnostic Christianity, which has it roots in lands (Middle-East) where Christianity arose and where it penetrated Europe at certain moments. Catharism, Bogolism, etc. could be closer to Christ's message than the doctrines born in Europe.

Zoompad said...

I hate it when the Holy Bible is misused as a way of trying to shut people up who have been treated badly.

I'm not judging anyone, God will do that, all I am saying is stuff that has happened.

Revolution Harry said...

Daniel, I tend to shy way from use of the term 'Illuminati' for reasons similar to those you've expressed. That said masonic seems unavoidable when dealing with the machinations of freemasons and Satanic seems justified for many reasons. I try not to be too specific which is why I use terms such as 'occult oligarchy' and the capitalised 'Them'.

There's much within Christianity that is held in common by all denominations but you're correct in saying there are also areas of disagreement. Perhaps that is particularly true in the area of prophecy. It seems certain that much of this is by design. Reading and studying the Bible and attempting to answer the inevitable questions that arise reaps its own reward.

I nearly fell for the Gnostic deception myself. Thankfully I was led away from it. There's a powerful reason why Christianity took hold in Europe and at a much earlier time than you might think.

“Britain, partly through Joseph of Arimathea, partly through Fugatus and Damianus, was of all kingdoms the first that received the Gospel.”

Polydore Vergil. 

"Three times the antiquity of the British Church was affirmed in Ecclesiastical Councila. I. The Council of Pisa, A.D. 1417; 2. Council of Constance, A.D. 1419; 3. Council of Siena, A.D. 1423. It was stated that the British Church took precedence of all other Churches, being founded by Joseph of Arimathea, immediately after the Passion of Christ"

Theodore Martin in "Disputoilis super Dignitatem Anglis it Gallioe in Councilio Constantiano," A.D.1517.

"The British National Church was founded A.D.36, 160 years before heathen Rome confessed Christianity."

Bishop Ussher writes in Brittannicarum Ecclesiarum Antiquitates.

Daniel said...

I have difficulties to accept the theory you are mentioning regarding Christianity in Britain. There is no archaeological evidence for this. Surely there were early Christians in Britain with the Romans but I wonder if they really spread the word. I also wonder what kind of Christians they were... Were they Jewish or even maybe Manichean (later)...?
We have to realise that in those times there was less a Judaic doctrine than today. Many branches within the Abrahamic field were found in the Middle-East. Christianity was a Jewish branch until St. Paul created a schism by his own doctrine in order to divide and adapt to Rome. Is our European (Roman) Christianity not a Pauline Christianity...? Some consider Paul of Tarsus' doctrine as a corruption of the original teachings of Jesus.

Some Quotes:

“Reference is made to the large number of non-canonical texts, some of which have been discovered during the last 100 years, which show the many movements and strands of thought emanating from Jesus' life and teaching or which may be contemporary with them, some of which can be contrasted with Paul's thought. Of the more significant are Ebionism and Gnosticism.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pauline_Christianity

“Manichaean as used in contemporary popular discourse refers to someone who sees the world as a struggle between Good and Evil”
“It was widespread among the legions of the Roman Empire, who considered it a soldier's religion, and it was briefly the main rival to Christianity in the competition to replace classical paganism.”

… AND

Daniel said...

… AND

“As shown by the numerous quotations in the New Testament books and other Christian writings of the 1st centuries, early Christians generally used and revered the Jewish Bible as Scripture, mostly in the Greek (Septuagint) or Aramaic (Targum) translations, much of which is written in narrative form where "in the biblical story God is the protagonist, Satan (or evil people/powers) are the antagonists, and God’s people are the agonists".

Mmm... last quote is quite dualistic and the agonism expressed reminds me of the Islamic struggle, one calls 'Jihad', in the sense of inner struggle. The more inner view of Islam (Tawil) by Sufi's, Ismaili's, etc. could be well translated into Gnostic Christianism (or vice versa).
Most probably, Knights Templars integrated these doctrines, when in the Middle-East but than again, certain Christian philosophy's were already present in Europe.... and rediscovered, under a Muslim umbrella, in the Middle-East. We still do underestimate Muslim (including Eastern) philosophies in our Christian heritage. Maybe certain Masonic orders in the West brought together these doctrines in their quest for the 'source of Wisdom' and indeed Lucifer is the light, but not necessarily Satan. Lucifer is a Latinised name to represent the 'Morning Star' (Venus).
http://jdstone.org/cr/files/luciferaproblemforchristianity.html

What about following quote (esoteric Quran) about Jesus' crucifixion:

An alternative, more esoteric interpretation is expounded by both certain Islamic philosophers and some Sufi and Isma'ili commentators so as to unite Islam, Christianity and Judaism into a single religious continuum. Making use of the New Testament's distinguishing between Jesus, Son of Man, - being the physical human Jesus – and Christ, Son of God, - being The Holy Spirit of God residing in the body of Jesus – The Holy Spirit, being immortal and immaterial, is not subject to crucifixion, for it can never die, nor can it be touched by the earthly nails of the crucifixion, for it is a being of pure spirit. Yet the body that was Jesus was sacrificed on the cross, thereby bringing the Old Testament to final fulfillment. Thus Qur'anic passages on the death of Jesus affirm that while the Pharisees intended to destroy The Son of God completely, they, in fact, succeeded only in killing The Son of Man, being his nasut (material being). Meanwhile, The Son of God, being his lahut (spiritual being) remained alive and undying – for it is The Holy Spirit.

The metaphysical approach...

Revolution Harry said...

Whilst there's no direct archeological evidence (at least that we've been made aware of) there's plenty of circumstantial evidence and those quotes were just a small sample. There's plenty of literature on the subject if you care to search it out.

It's impossible to address all your points but I think many of them maybe cleared up by defining what exactly you mean by Jew. A great deal of confusion reigns around that one word. Do you mean a member of the Tribe of Judah, a Judahite, just one of the twelve tribes of Israel (the Israelites); a Judean, that is an inhabitant of the area known as Judea or a follower of Judaism, a religion that revolves around the (Babylonian) Talmud, the Torah and to some degree Kabbalah? These articles might help a bit.

http://www.israelect.com/reference/WillieMartin/SamaritanWoman.htm

http://anglo-saxonisrael.com/content/who-were-judaeans-new-testament

Whilst there has undoubtedly been an attempt to 'Judaise' Christianity, even to this day, it's as much a heresy as it was in the time of Paul and the Ebionites. They denounced Paul and the other apostles who carried Christianity to the Israelites because they thought they should first be converting them to Judaism. The Ebionites were Judeo-Christians who were far more Jewish than Christian. The key is to understand the difference between the 'Jews' (Pharisees etc) and true Israel (the twelve tribes). Roman Catholicism is a pagan distortion of true Christianity and bears little resemblance to Paul's teachings. Paul was an Israelite of the tribe of Benjamin. His message, as was Jesus Christ's, was to the Israelites. There's a profound difference between them and those we know as the 'Jews' today.

The Gnostics were every bit as heretical as the Ebionites. It was an early attempt to undermine true Christianity.

"The Gnostics derived their leading doctrines and ideas from Plato and Philo, the Zend-avesta, the Kabbalah, and the Sacred books of India and Egypt; and thus introduced into the bosom of Christianity the cosmological and theosophical speculations, which had formed the larger portion of the ancient religions of the Orient, joined to those of the Egyptian, Greek, and Jewish doctrines, which the Neo-Platonists had equally adopted in the Occident.."

Morals and Dogmas, Albert Pike.

Revolution Harry said...

When it says 'Christians generally used and revered the Jewish Bible as Scripture' again the confusion is over the term Jewish. The Old Testament is an Israelite book. Judah was only one of the twelve tribes and even then many of those who call themselves Jews (followers of Judaism) are not of the tribe of Judah. For example Abraham was a Hebrew but he wasn't a Jew. This is important for many reasons.

The Knights Templars were a spawn of the Vatican and were/are essentially Gnostic and Luciferian. Whilst there's a great deal of conjecture over the issue of who or what Lucifer is he or it appears to be revered by the occultists of this world. This is too complex an issue to be dealt with in a blog comment but here's another take on it.

"An examination of the original Hebrew will dispel any illusion that "morning star" is an acceptable substitute for the word "Lucifer." The Hebrew is "helel, ben shachar," which is accurately translated, "Lucifer, son of the morning." The NIV and NASB give an English translation as if the Hebrew said, "shachar kokab, ben shachar" or morning star, son of the morning (or dawn). Yet the word for star (kokab) appears nowhere in the text. Also 'morning' appears only once, as the KJV shows, not twice as new versions indicate. The word kokab is translated as 'star' dozens of other times by NIV translators; morning or dawn is likewise used hundreds of times. New version editors know boger kokab is 'morning star' since it is used in Job 38:7. If God had intended to communicate 'morning star', he could have repeated it here. The word he chose, helel, appears nowhere else in the Old Testament, just as "Lucifer" appears nowhere else."

http://www.angelfire.com/la2/prophet1/prayingtoanewgod.html

I can see you're very drawn to the 'metaphysical approach'. All I can say is so was I for many years. As part of my research into what can be loosely described as the 'New World Order' agenda I felt compelled to study Christianity more closely. Of course this meant reading the Bible. I began with the Gospels and I soon realised how wrong I was. I couldn't possibly hope to explain why I felt that way in a few words. All I can say is that there is a whirlwind of deception at work in this world and if anyone desires to come anywhere near the truth a great deal of study is required. Mine continues.

I've studied Islam from all directions. Just as Catholicism is veiled Babylonian paganism so is Islam veiled Persian mythology (astrology). The Islamic symbol is the star and the moon which are both occult idols. One for the moon goddess and the other for the sun god, the male and female occult deities.

Cheers,

Harry.

Daniel said...

John 21:11

So Simon Peter went aboard and hauled the net ashore, full of large fish, 153 of them. And although there were so many, the net was not torn.

Matthew 13:11-13

He replied, “You are permitted to understand the secrets[a] of the Kingdom of Heaven, but others are not. To those who listen to my teaching, more understanding will be given, and they will have an abundance of knowledge. But for those who are not listening, even what little understanding they have will be taken away from them.
That is why I use these parables,
For they look, but they don’t really see. They hear, but they don’t really listen or understand.

The number 153 is full of symbolism and probably based on a Pythagorean Mystical belief.
Matthew is stating the inner circle of the ones permitted to know.
True Masonic knowledge is capable of reading old cathedrals (and other structures) while for the masses it is just a stone building.

Well Henry, I will order some books regarding the matter to learn more as wherever I see Christianity, I see symbolism and hidden messages as it is with all religions. That is one of the reasons I think 'Divine Knowledge' is packaged in all religions. It is not just the Gnostic version, it goes behind that: the root of all religions is found in every religion.

The relationship of symbolism and the New World Order is interesting, depending of how one defines New World Order. I still don't know if it is a bad or wrong thing to have a World Government on term. I mean, we all live on the same planet and we are at this moment not doing very well. In fact, I agree from a logical and sane perspective with the message of the Georgia Guidestones.
That is why I use these parables,
For they look, but they don’t really see. They hear, but they don’t really listen or understand.

Well Henry, I will order some books regarding the matter as wherever I see Chrisitianity I see symbolism and hidden messages as with all religions. That is one of the reasons I think Divinity or Knowledge is packaged in all religions

Zoompad said...

When I lived in Handsworth I did some housework for a man who was also a Christian and I remember him telling me this little metaphor about Jesus.

He said that we were like a tank full of fish and that God saw us all attacking each other and so he made himself into a fish so that he could stop all the fighting. There was more to the metaphor than just this but I have forgotten all the rest.

The point for me is that God is bigger than us, and none of us can escape from this tank, or rather, this planet we live on, apart from God's grace, because this earth is both our sustinance and our prison. We have this breath of life inside us, and we want things, but Jesus did say to go to him for what we need, and instead of doing that we sometimes try to grab what we need from other people.

There are people who have got vast amounts of money and things, and instead of being really happy with their wealth they are absolutly petrified of having it all taken away, so much so that they can't really enjoy anything they own, and they spend their lives plotting against the poorest of the poor.

When I was being ganged up on in the secret family courts I tried so many places to help me, and most people and agencies slammed the door in my face, and asking God to help me was really an act of last chance desperation. I only had a tiny amount of faith that God would help me, though I had no doubt that God existed, I didn't think he loved me. I am a survivor of Pindown child abuse and have struggled with self esteem problems, I just didnt think I was someone God could care about because I felt like a piece of dirt, useless.

Another Christian did say something that helped me, basically that no matter how wrecked and useless I felt that God was my creator. I suppose its like how people keep their tatty old motheaten teddy bears, they might be just like sad looking scruffy bashed up sacks of sawdust to other people, but to the person whose childhood friend that bear was they are priceless and still loved, no matter how much sawdust falls out. God loves us like that, I am sure, even when we are old and knackered up.

Anonymous said...

David Icke is confronted about Alice Bailey and the Lucis Trust in the video below. Go right to 13:20 as the rest is very boring.
Its exactly the reply i would have expected from Icke, he says its how you use the knowledge not the knowledge itself that is important. He simply will not accept the notion that the knowledge comes from satan/lucifer. Its a bit like the old black and white witchcraft thing, its all witchcraft no matter how you dress it up. Children are being targeted with more and more occult "knowledge" made out to be fun or entertainment so its obvious that satan wants people to be under the illusion that the knowledge itself if harmless. Ickes defence is just not credible and he is indoctrinating many into his occult philosophy just like Crane.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nquhwQNSqS0

Andrew

Anonymous said...

Daniel, here's another explantion for the 153 fish. http://www.petersteffens.com/articles/teachings/the-significance-of-the-153-fish.html

Revolution Harry said...

Daniel, sorry for the delay in replying to you but I've been away on holiday and all too predictably returned with a nasty cold. Give me a day or two until it clears.

Andrew, I had seen that video before and Icke's bluster speaks volumes.

Anonymous said...

Harry,
I'd be happy to do the voice over for your video. I live in London.
Have a listen to this and check out the other videos on my channel..Swinderby.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OlTTi9y5Lk&list=FLizixvZPv2PDPIoLAQcczeQ&index=6&feature=plpp_video

Revolution Harry said...

Daniel,

"Probably based on a Pythagorean mystical belief"

But that would only be speculation. There are many competing theories as to what the significance of the number 153 might be. The text gives no clue or indication and it's good practice to not try and read more into the Scriptures than what has been given. Christ often spoke in parables and symbols and then later explained them. Indeed there is a great deal of symbolism throughout the Bible itself which is in turn explained elsewhere in the Bible. If there was any particular significance to the number 153 it would have been explained.

The Matthew verses quoted are spoken to the Apostles. They had been chosen by God and given the gift of understanding.

Jesus said, “You have not chosen Me, but I have chosen you.”  John 15:16.

This is a world away from the structure and methods of masonry or Gnosticism for that matter.

The symbolism of the New World Order is of an occult nature. It's an occult enterprise. A world government would be disastrous. We only have to look at its undemocratic precursor the EU to see that. Co-operation between free nations is one thing. Dictation from a world government quite another.

If you're so keen on the Georgia Guidestones perhaps you could explain how you'd like to see humanity 'maintained under 500,000,000' and have its 'reproduction wisely guided'. Who decides what our 'personal rights' and 'social duties' are?

The name's Harry by the way : )

Revolution Harry said...

Swinderby (or should I call you Des?), thanks very much for your offer. Soon after I began my attempt at making the film I realised it would take me forever and a day using the methods I'd used so far. I've experimented with other ways and at the moment I'm trying to rewrite the script in a more condensed form. The only problem being that I want to add to it not take anything away. I've been away on holiday and I'm going to have a fresh look at it all this week. At the moment I'm using a Mac voice which is far from satisfactory. There is another, more advanced voice which I was going to purchase should I finish the visual side of the film. That said, if I do ever finish it and your offer still stands you have the perfect voice for the job and I'll certainly be in contact with you. If you could email me at...

revolutionharry@macunlimited.net

... with your contact details I'd be very grateful.

Thanks again,

Harry.

Revolution Harry said...

Zoompad, on reflection I think your friends metaphor is similar to the parable of the wheat and the tares. That, I think, is closer to what we face in this world today.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+13%3A24-30&version=NKJV

Thanks,

Harry.

Anonymous said...

http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=59480

Anonymous said...

This is very interesting:

http://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=10150348654301276&id=217722656275

and

http://phoenixrisingfromthegulf.wordpress.com/2011/08/29/ian-r-crane-poses-as-gulf-oil-spill-advocate/

Revolution Harry said...

Some very good information regarding Ian R Crane there Anon. None of which surprises me. Thanks.

Anonymous said...

Just a quick look at Mr Crane's website should tell us he is the business of marketing and charging for his "services" which should be a red flag to anyone.
Real truth and salvation is free of course.
Andrew

Anonymous said...

http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=59480

http://diggerfortruth.wordpress.com/2012/09/27/10-reasons-why-im-sure-brian-gerrish-is-a-shill/

http://diggerfortruth.wordpress.com/?s=brian+gerrish

http://diggerfortruth.wordpress.com/2012/11/18/the-hollie-greig-hoax/

Revolution Harry said...

Thanks Anon, I had seen that. He makes a few observations that are worthwhile and a few that are perhaps not quite so damning.

The Hollie Grieg issue is a curious one. I've read both sides of the story and on balance I suspect it could well be a 'hoax'. Of course it's on this issue that Brian and David Icke join forces. I can't help feeling there's much more to it all than meets the eye.

Zoompad said...

I met Anne and Hollie Greig at Stafford when Brian Gerrish had that conference at the Stafford Rangers Football Ground, that was organised by that woman whose name I daren't mention in case she sets the police on me again for doing so, but her last name is a word that describes a ducks foot.

Anne Greig seemed nice to me. We exchanged contact details, I phoned her up once and had a chat, but the next time I tried to phone I couldn't get through, then I read on one of the Hollie blogs that she had had nasty phone abuse, so she must have changed her number.

I have wondered if the abuse was to stop her talking to other institutional abuse victims, because the bad ones always like to isolate us.

I don't think Anne Greig is a liar, I do believe her, she seems genuine to me. But I think Robert Green is a liar. I was really amazed the way he didnt care about the Colin Tucker scandal, Colin Tucker Birmingham and Scotland, but I think the two Colin Tuckers are the same man. I asked Robert to help me by letting me see a photo of the Scottish Colin Tucker, and he passed me on to Stuart Usher, who gave me the run around, then passed me on to a Scottish woman who said she didnt know what Colin Tucker Scotland looked like. But one of them must have seen Colin Tucker Scotland, when the Magic Circle Lord Derviant trial was on, and that Margaret told me Colin Tucker and his lawyer sugar daddy had stolen her house, if my house had been stolen you bet your life I would make sure I knew what the criminals faces looked like, so I realised I was being led up the garden path with that one.

Anonymous said...

Noting the comments have strayed into C.I./B.I., here (faute de mieux, located discontinuously in another blog's comments section) is a small number of potentially interesting links on CI, the Bible, its (manifold) sources and the possibility that not only was much of its content "borrowed", but actually inverted (I speak not of Gnosticism):

http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=5440450620561193447&postID=5653555745400912592

The idea of the British Church being of great antiquity and sanctity (even vis-a-vis Rome) was promoted by Henry VIII as part of his strategy for obtaining a divorce and failing that, to start his own church (which could grant him one). At least, according to Oxford Professor Diarmaid MacCulloch in the BBC series "How God Made the English". Yes I have singular reservations about both persons, natural and corporate, but actually fewer than I have about the credibility of the Rev. H.A. Lewis's little booklet, "Christ In Cornwall" (3rd Ed. 1948), a copy of which I have, which purports to justify the supposed ancient origins and holy connections of the British Church.

PS: If you want a good TTS voice, you could consider those at
http://www.ivona.com/en/
although I haven't checked Mac compatibility and overall would think Mr Lawson would sound even better still.

Revolution Harry said...

Thanks for the links Anon. I didn't find much that enlightened me on that thread to be honest. I shall attempt an article on the BI/CI subject at some point I hope.

What I have found so far is that, as with any other subject of importance, there's an immense amount of deception (counter-intelligence) at work that surrounds it, which is to be expected really. You have to work through an awful lot of sites to find any of value and even then you have to cast your net widely to get a broad take on the subject. I don't doubt that there is indeed something to it all, for many very good reasons. I've been on several of the 'debunking' sites and found all of them wanting. Many of the points they raise have been adequately answered before. There are, however, a few uncertain areas. On balance though the case for seems much stronger.

I tend to view all things emanating from the BBC with a great degree of caution. The evidence suggesting that Jesus visited Britain, as well as Joseph of Arimathea coming to Britain after the death of Christ and being instrumental in setting up one of the first Christian churches outside of Jerusalem, is quite persuasive. Of course this ties in with the BI/CI idea. Whilst, as I've said, I feel there's something to all this I've no doubt there's also some deception involved in some interpretations of it. Unravelling it all isn't easy but a keen investigation of the subject does reap some rewards.

Zoompad said...

Just wanted to wish you a happy new year. I had a treat with my family yesterday, and went to see the Life of Pi, it was such a moving film I felt like clapping at the end of it, which most films and books don't make me feel like doing. I read the book but the film just blew me away, because when I read the book I concentrated on the fight for survival in the sea part of it, and skipped over so much of it, and it isn't just about physical survival at all, just like Robinson Crusoe wasn't, do go and see it Harry, I know will enjoy it, as I did.

May God bless all people who love the truth and love goodness and kindness and hate evil, may God bless those who strive and pray for a better world and an end to all abuse wether it is of young old or any frail creature.

Revolution Harry said...

Thanks very much and a Happy New Year to you too Zoompad. I was thinking of going to see the Life of Pi so your recommendation has made my mind up for me.

Thanks again and God bless you,

Harry.

Anonymous said...

I would add in "The Tap Blogspot" into the pied pipers list. You don't have to spend too long there to discover the deceptive Icke/alien/new age promotion alongside the "truth" articles. The good old Modus Operandi of zeitgeist, Icke and many more, slip in the new age deception alongside "truths" so the mind becomes wide open to it and believes. An open mind is very easy to deceive, a discerning mind is not.
Andrew

Revolution Harry said...

Andrew, it's always difficult to tell the difference between someone who is, perhaps, well meaning but misguided and someone who intentionally deceives. It's a possibility that can't be discounted though.

Anonymous said...

Agreed, it is often difficult to tell if the deception is well meaning or on purpose but the end results are same. We know for example that many in the Zeitgeist movement are well intentioned but deceived as many Icke fans are. That is is very point, the ultimate irrelevance of well meaningless if it leads to deception. I find it very sad that the Tap has to indulge in the same new age deceptions as have been exposed on here amongst the pied pipers from it's popular contributors and i am not saying you can't learn things from there, but i can say it's still promoting Luciferian and satanic doctrines amongst it's truth articles. The very fact they have to diversify into the "occult and new age" gives even less credence to their "truth" articles from the perceptions of the public and which is a known method of popular deception with so-called "truth sites" into the new age so you can see the double purpose there too.

Anonymous said...

I should have added that the Bible says that "And not to wonder at this, for if he who is Satan resembles an Angel of light" which tells us just how deceptive Satan is, then we should be just as careful about people who are "well meaning" in the "truth movement" but deceive because they are deceived, well meaning or not. The tap blog does some great work in exposing some temporal "truths" i feel but we can only trust our creator ultimately. No truth website will offer us salvation or will ever change the world toward what we feel it should be changed into. We know why the world is corrupt and fallen and yet these "truth sites" deny the ultimate truth and still rebel against their creator.

Zoompad said...

"i feel but we can only trust our creator ultimately"

Well I agree with that.

A. Alexander said...

As always Western people happily avoid the serious and grave problems - Islamo-fascism,leftist welfare-states complete bancruptcy,churches` crisises for the conspirology of all types.

Revolution Harry said...

Can you really not see the connection between all of those things AA?

Olive Farmer said...

You stopped writing.
Out of interest, as this is something of a trend, why?
cretedream@hotmail.com

nwo-truthresearch said...

Roman Catholic Focolarini' New World Order Religion

http://nwo-truthresearch.blogspot.it/2013/03/il-nuovo-ordine-mondiale-dei-focolarini.html

Chiara Lubich, the Focolarini'founder was strictly close to the Jesuits

Zoompad said...

I urge people to pray for the British people on Wednesday, that there will be no rioting, no reason for the traitors that rule over us to bring in foreign militia to quell trouble. Please pray for our people.

Phil Phenol said...

Hi RH,

I agree with everything you have written and bow to your superior knowledge on this very large subject.

I think the one thing we can do is make information like this available to as many people as possible.

Once enough people are aware of the flawed and evil system we live in then something can change, a critical mass if you will.

Anonymous said...

Any mention of the following social engineering institutions in your blog articles? If not, why not?

US:
Wright Institute, Berkeley, California
A.K. Rice Institute (based in Washington, D.C., it has dozens of U.S. chapters)
Center for the Quality of Working Life, UCLA
Department of Social Systen^ Sciences, Wharton School, University of Pennsylvania

UK:
Tavistock Institute for Human Relations, London
Human Resources Center
Center for Applied Social Research
School of Family Psychiatry and Community Health
Institute for Marital Studies
Institute for Operational Research
Scottish Institute of Human Relations
Center for Family and Environmental Research
Department of Continuing Management Education, Loughborough University
Foundation for Adaptation in Changing Environments
Organization for Promoting Understanding in Society (OPUS)

Europe:
Work Research Institute, Oslo, Norway
School of Business Administration, Erasmus University, the Netherlands

Australia:
Center for Continuing Education, Australian National University

Canada:
Action Learning Group, Faculty of Environmental Studies, York University, Toronto
Quality of Working Life Center, Ontario

India:
BM Institute, Ahmedabad
National Labor Institute and Punjab Institute for Public Administration

Revolution Harry said...

Probably because apart from the Tavistock Institute I haven't heard of any of them.

Of course we're being socially engineered but it might have been more helpful if you'd given us a bit more detail on the role these organisations play.

Anonymous said...

Check out page 27 of the source document. This is info about what roles these institutions play.

http://archive.org/details/TheSunNeverSetsOnTheNewBritishEmpire

Revolution Harry said...

Thanks Anon. The page you referred to was part of an interesting paper on the Tavistock Institute. I was already familiar with the general theme but the article contained additional valuable information. That said I'm always more than a little suspicious of LaRouche. I suspect that it's still far from the full story.

Anonymous said...


Could you please elaborate a little about your suspicion about LaRouche.

darrens guitar box guitars said...

Been a while since I looked at la rouche but i think in the end i boiled him down to cooperate fascism in essence. Google him and fascism and you will see many other draw the same conclusion

Revolution Harry said...

Essentially it's what he doesn't say as much as what he does. His focus seems to be entirely on the 'British' and their American counterparts. From my own personal studies this seems woefully inadequate to explain what's happening in the world. His 'solution' to the world's financial problems appear to revolve around a proposed US, Chinese, Russian and Indian pact of sorts. Again this seems to be a misleading interpret ation of what is currently taking place. That said much of what he does say is beyond my comprehension which is why I only say I remain suspicious, or perhaps more accurately, wary.

Some of the stories that emanate from within the organisation are troublesome as well.

http://www.lyndonlarouche.org/index.html

Anonymous said...

Thank you, Harry and darrens. I have been researching cults and I have found LaRouche listed there.

Harry, why do you post atlanteanconspiracy.com link? This guy is so deluded and it is one of the worst New Age mambo jumbo. I responded with criticism to his blog about psychoneuroimmunolgy & placebo effect. He didn't have guts, or I would better say a brain, to discuss psychoneuroimmunology and how ignorant he was!

Revolution Harry said...

Anon, I really can't disagree with you about Atlanteanconspiracy. I added him when I started the blog and when I was still very naive as to what was being played out. I still keep an eye on him just to see where his thinking is going. I long ago realised that he was tumbling down the New Age path. I use the sidebar of my blog as a sort of newsfeed to see if any of his posts are worth a look. They very rarely are. I can see that it looks as if I endorse him so I suppose I should remove him. Maybe I will.

Anonymous said...

It is irritating to see his lack of critical thinking and the ability to research scientific literature. He fools many who want to believe in pseudo science and consequences may be quite harmful. But when you look at “Important Links in Understanding the Global Conspiracy” the links he posts is so bloody obvious where his mind is. You don't need to read his blogs to detect big BS.

I have read his blog a few years ago when I was new to UFO and conspiracy theories. It didn't take that long to see lies and deceptions and quite deluded mind of a person who believes in Law of Extraction........I mean Law of Attraction LOL. Oh, please, please buy my books....... I want to be a spiritual teacher and I fight NOW.

You may unintentionally mislead others. Don’t forget that it is a war for our minds and confused mind can be easily controlled and manipulated. After all, New Age push for suspending critical thinking with famous slogan that "if it resonates with you it must be true. No thanks no.

Zoompad said...

I know this is a bit of a read, but please will you look at this?

http://zoompad.blogspot.com/2013/07/who-are-atos-and-who-is-ganesh.html

In a nutshell, my daughter is being stressed out of her wits by ATOS (the IT partners of the BBC) and I did think it might have something to do with the Pindown cover up, as the BBC were involved in that and I am one of the Pindown victims.

Anyway, in my quest to help my daughter (who is losing her hair because of the stress) I went on WHAT DO THEY KNOW to find out why ATOS are doing this, to try to find out who these ATOS bullies are, the ones at the top and why they are employing so many foreign thugs.

I quickly discovered that ATOS FOI requests are being blocked and this man doing the blocking Ganish Sittampamen, his father is a very rich influential financier with roots in Kenya and Sri Lanka.

Please can you read it right through to the end, comments included?

Thanks

Zoompad said...

Sorry, typo, I meant Ganesh Sittampalem.

Soldado Christano said...

Walter Veith is Seventh Day Adventists, so watch out!

Seventh Day Adventism is cult:
http://www.wayoflife.org/database/seventh_day_adventism.html

Revolution Harry said...

Thanks Soldado. I was aware of it even if, perhaps, others weren't. There's plenty of value in Veith's lectures although I can't concur with his Seventh Day Adventism.

Anonymous said...

Hmm.........is really there plenty of value in Veith's lecture? I am wondering how anybody can trust Veith's lecture if he can’t see plenty of symbolism is Seven Day Adventism he tries to expose.... It doesn’t add does it.

Revolution Harry said...

There are things apart from Veith's Seventh Day Adventism I don't agree with. Things that are also promoted by other denominations.

What's required when viewing anything is discernment. Rather than take everything he says at face value you need to cross check and investigate. If you do you may come to the conclusion that there's a great deal of truth in his lectures. As such they are of value as a launch pad to deeper investigation and an outline of some of the issues we face.

Veith is quite open about his beliefs. I would assume that his Adventism is genuine, though of course it may not be. Assuming it is, whether his consequent doctrinal positions on certain issues means he won't be saved is beyond my ability to know for sure.

Anonymous said...

Well, it sounds that you didn’t take time to research Seventh Day Adventist.I am wondering if you did research that subject, would you would still consider “a great deal of truth”?

Second, why I would want to listen to a person I consider another fraud rather than doing my own research??? Don’t you think that we got a brain before our ears for a reason? New age wants people to be passive without critical thinking and God forbid.... people who think independently.

Sorry, Harry before you give any advice regarding discernment....look at the mirror.

Anyway, your blog was helpful for a while when I allowed myself to be fooled by conspiracy jokers or spiritual frauds. I have developed severe allergy for that kind of “truth” lol

Revolution Harry said...

Anon, you seem to have either misread or misunderstood my comment. I mace it quite clear that I disagreed with Veith's Adventism. Just because he's wrong on that doesn't mean there isn't anything in his lectures of value. I made that statement because I've watched many of them and there is a great deal of factual information in them that is correct. Regardless I clearly stated that you shouldn't take anything he, or anyone else, says at face value. Rather, you should should watch, listen then cross check and investigate for yourself. This is the exact opposite of your intimation that I was somehow promoting passivity and lack of critical thinking.

Why should I need to 'look in the mirror'? Discernment means having good judgement which I exercised regarding Veith. Indeed I said discernment is required when viewing anything. I still occasionally check on what David Icke is saying precisely because I'm trying to understand the deception that's being play out. Icke mixes truth with deception so discernment is required more than ever. If you only ever view or read things from people you trust your ability to understand the 'bigger picture' is restricted.

Out of interest, what exactly is it about Adventists you find so awful?

Anonymous said...


First, I didn’t misunderstand you. I was quite surprised that you didn’t show any curiosity to find out why I questioned Veith but advised me to practice discernment.

Second, discernment is a new age synonym for the lack of critical thinking.lol Third, those frauds have to present some truth; otherwise, people wouldn’t believe them, and pay big bucks for being brainwashed. Benjamin Franklin was right when he said, “ half’s truth is often a great lie”

Finally, you may want to look at David Icke or other frauds to understand deception. I don’t. He has fooled me for a while but not anymore. I do my independent research. Moreover, it is much more interesting to study psychological persuasion techniques to understand how they are so successful brainwashing people into their BS.

“Out of interest, what exactly is it about Adventists you find so awful?”

Again, I am curious why you are so reluctant to find it out by yourself. It wouldn’t take you that long as there is a lot of expose. This is passivity I was talking about or a better term passive- receptive mode where critical thinking is absent.

Best regards,

Revolution Harry said...

Anon, you're not the first to have difficulties with Veith's Adventism so it came as no surprise that someone did. I've no idea why you think I'm reluctant to find anything out about Veith. I've already explained that I've looked into him and Adventism and come to my own conclusions. You seem to feel much more strongly about him than I do, I was just curious as to why that is. You can tell me or not, it's up to you.

I advised discernment when reading or viewing any material not just Veith's. Since when has the use of discernment been appropriated by the New Age? If you have any links for evidence of this I'd be grateful. I used the word in its traditional English meaning which is 'the act or process of exhibiting keen insight and good judgment'. The exact opposite of a lack of critical thinking.

I explained why I still occasionally look at Icke's stuff. It's not to understand 'deception' per se but the nature of the deception he's promoting. Seems a sensible thing to do in the current circumstances. What untainted source material do you use for your 'independent research'?

Anonymous said...

Harry, I don’t want to sound sarcastic but our conversation reminds about people on conspiracy forums, D.Icke’s forum included. It took me a while to understand behavior of many people there who seemed lost their ability to think. Later, I have found out that those forums have been infested with masons,Aleister Crowley and Wicca lovers. Lol

Anyway, I am not going to discuss Veith for two reasons. I have already done it. Second, I would need to make a post of the size of your blog. Therefore, I said if you did your research and understood the connections, you would have a few good laughs at yourself but if you didn’t.....well, I will keep for myself what I would think about it.

“What untainted source material do you use for your 'independent research'?”

Not conspiracy theories or pseudo scientists. Lol I may give you an example. When I heard Icke’s version of ancient religions, I studied ancient historians and scholars. Actually, his absurdity or plain stupidity encouraged me to get serious about mythology and ancient religions. Well, what we can expect from a former soccer player who wrote 3 books in 3 years.LOL! But the list of scholars and original resources is long. Those frauds kept me busy for several years.

“Since when has the use of discernment been appropriated by the New Age? If you have any links for evidence of this I'd be grateful.”

Hehehe.......you may get educated about this subject researching critical thinking. You will find lots of material. Please, don’t expect me to waste my time to bring links for you. Well, Steven Jacobson who has been studying mind control for 30 years was right when he said that mind control is total when people have access to information in the front of them but they don’t look at it. Are you trying so hard to convince me that what he has said applies to you? ;)

Please, read my posts before you respond. I am tired of repeating myself.

Revolution Harry said...

I'm more than happy for people to read our conversation and judge for themselves who has 'lost their ability to think' or has 'access to information but [doesn't] look at it'.

You haven't 'discussed' Veith at all merely stated there's 'plenty of symbolism is (sic) Seven (sic) Day Adventism'. I'm not looking for a long post just a few core reasons why you consider Seventh Day Adventism so awful. I know why I don't agree with their beliefs I was merely curious as to your reasons. As I said if you don't want to explain why that's up to you.

Icke is very wrong in many areas, nobody's disputing that. What I was keen to learn were the sources you use in general for your 'independent research'. The reason this is important is because you must have come to the conclusion that these sources were wholly trustworthy rather than 'frauds'. How did you reach this conclusion and what were these sources? There are many 'ancient historians and scholars' not all of whom are in any way trustworthy or reliable.

You were the one that somehow confused the use of discernment with a lack of critical thinking and then further linked this with the 'New Age'. By not wasting your time do you mean you don't actually have any links? One or two will do. Note this isn't about 'critical thinking' but specifically to support your statement that 'discernment is a new age synonym for the lack of critical thinking'.

You can rest assured I read all your posts very carefully.

Gazz said...

Hello Harry,

Seems to me your head is right where it needs to be.

Came across this about Icke the other day you may be interested in ?

http://earthlinggb.wordpress.com/2013/07/07/david-ickes-corporate-sponsors/

G

Anonymous said...

Harry, let me make my final comment as I have spent too much time talking about conspiracy nuts.

First, I didn’t say that Seventh Day Adventist was awful. Don’t change my words. I said how people can trust a person who can’t see symbolism in his church, the same symbolism he is exposing. Second, it is a cult and it explains a lot for those who studied cult’s mind control. Third, if you really explored that subject, you would know that it is not that simple to explain it in a short post. There is a website where a person looked in depth and wrote several long blogs about Seventh Day Adventist symbolism. There is much information about that subject for a curious and open mind. Looking at founders of church is a good start. Very interesting indeed.

Regarding Icke. It sounds that you are apologist for him. Perhaps, he is the source of knowledge for you about reality and deception. If you think that he has the capacity to do research what is going on and you are not capable of doing such research......I am not going to convince you otherwise. Well, the insanity of Icke’s theory has reached its heights as he openly admits that he listens to his guides or reptilians whom he call “the guys”. But if you like it.

I agree that there are many pseudo scholars and I fell into a mind trap of a number of those frauds years ago. Well, I have learned a lot from my mistakes as I didn’t stop my research but I also have learned a lot from those who have sharp and critical minds.....none of whom would spend a second on conspiracy theory. LOL Practice makes a master and doing research is a great practice of critical thinking. There is no shortcut. Don’t forget that critical thinking is a skill that can be sharpened. It is crucial to do so since according to a big research done more than a decade ago, 2/3 of Americans didn’t have the ability to think critically at all. Developmental psychologists were quite alarmed about those findings but I am afraid that those numbers are much higher today.

That’s all I want to say. No more conspiracy nuts!
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Best regards,

Revolution Harry said...

Gazz,

Thanks for that. None of it surprises me. Just one more propaganda vehicle to deal with I suppose.

Being cynical I can't help feeling that the appeal for funds is just a cover. The finance being 'provided' elsewhere. Who knows for sure though.

Revolution Harry said...

Anon,

When I used the term awful that was just descriptive of what appeared to be your general attitude to Adventism. I didn't say you used that exact word. As I said, I don't agree with Veith's Adventism. I'm not sure it qualifies as a cult but I'm not going to argue the point. I can see why some might. Thankfully I'm able to watch some of his videos and discard any references to Adventism. The broader point being that there are many out there with beliefs I don't agree with but who also have valuable information on other subjects. Viewing Veith or anyone else therefore requires discernment or, if you like, critical thinking, the two being almost the same.

Thanks for the lesson on critical thinking but all I really wanted was to see how 'discernment is a new age synonym for the lack of critical thinking'.

Quite how my statements that 'Icke mixes truth with deception' and is 'very wrong in many areas' equals me being an apologist for him escapes me.

Cheers,

Harry.

Anonymous said...

Harry, you deserve my honesty since you worked so hard.
I had a big red flag about your blog, therefore, I engaged you in conversation. Well, you haven’t figured it out. LOL!

You have done a good job confirming all my red flags. Well done Harry, really well done!

Thanks for good laughter. I haven’t had such good laughter for a long time.

But now, I run, not walk from conspiracy theories and its supporters. Too much insanity to handle. LOL!

Best regards,

Revolution Harry said...

A big red flag eh, lol. Anon, I can see you had trouble 'handling' the conversation so perhaps it's for the best. I wish you well in your research.

Cheers,

Harry.

carolinamariadejesus said...

thank you so much Revolutionharry!

Anonymous said...


Harry,
I was curious if you responded to my last post. Thanks for laughter again. I didn’t have a problem “handling” conversation....because it wasn’t conversation at all. ;)

I wanted to see your mind-set. I can tell you that being on a few conspiracy forums or ”truth” forums was a real eye opening. I am not alone.....many people stayed, watched carefully, and left with clarity.
Our conversation was a reminder of conversations I had there......as if you were going to the same school. lol

Best regards,

Peter Anderson said...

I think people need to look into cultural Marxism. The goal of cultural Marxism is to destroy western values and national identity. Political correctness is said to be cultural Marxism in action. Marxists persecuted Christians in the past. It explains a lot.

Peter Anderson said...

Yuri Bezmenov aka Tomas schuman. This man was a soviet defector he shows how the soviets used cultural Marxism and traditional Marxist theory to subvert enemy countries to take them over.

Google this man's name his lectures are very enlightening and seem to answer a lot questions about modern western society.

Chris Jones said...

@Anonymous - seen in recent anodyne 'lol' filled comments. You are being a tiresemoe knob.

Great article by the way Harry

Revolution Harry said...

Thanks Chris. Appreciated.